Moving from NY to SA for Work (San Antonio, Alamo: buy, school)

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

OP is coming from NYC. It's the number one media market in the US. Any relocation will land him or her in a smaller media market. I doubt the OP is unaware of that fact.

It's important to give someone perspective. If you've never been here, considering moving here, and moving from NYC, yes, you'll know it's smaller, but how much smaller? How does it compare? Saying it's the "7th largest city" doesn't give the appropriate picture, IMO. Is it comparable to San Francisco? Or Portland? According to city-data, we're number 8 and SF is number 14, but anyone who's lived or spent time in SF will say it's far more urban, and a much "bigger" city than San Antonio.

That data based on population isn't *wrong.* It just gives a different, and IMO, incorrect impression.

[dba07]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

The same way Houston and San Jose and San Diego are able to have such large city populations.



No one classified it as that. That would be an incorrect classification. 7th largest city however, is not an incorrect classification.



Please list five of these amenities you speak. Let's hope they're legit amenities and not something superfical and irrelevant.



OP is coming from NYC. It's the number one media market in the US. Any relocation will land him or her in a smaller media market. I doubt the OP is unaware of that fact.

You're using Houston and San Diego as comparisons? Regardless of how much they've annexed, they still have vibrant and significant media markets beyond the city.

I am obviously aware of this. People are, in fact, confusing the distinctions between the ranking of city size and MSA, which is why I brought it up.

The arts and cultural scenes, while growing, are limited and not sufficient given the size of the city. Intellectual stimulation is also severely lacking in the city. The number of major league sports is also inferior to cities of lesser size (again due to the MSA).

I'm aware of NYC, you're simply repeating what I've said. While any city the op moves to would be smaller, this is a larger drop than some of the people here are alluding to.

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

Nashville and Indianapolis are bigger media markets than San Diego. Territory size and where the city is positioned geographically contribute to their size ranking. The reason Indianapolis market is bigger than San Diego and San Antonio is because Indianapolis is all that exists in Indiana. San Antonio is adjacent to Austin and shares the population base of South-Central Texas with Austin. This is where the heavy population distribution, is, in this region.

Media market size says really has nothing to do with what a city has to offer as far as city amenities other than Sports is concerned, or the overall quality of life.

Austin has no major league sports and that city is no less of a city because of it. It compensates the lack of major league sports, in other areas. The reason it has no major league sports is because of its proximity to S.A. Sports politics is the main reason S.A. doesn't have any of the other leagues, but that will change soon.

[teenwolf80]

Originally Posted by dba07

You're using Houston and San Diego as comparisons? Regardless of how much they've annexed, they still have vibrant and significant media markets beyond the city.

That wasn't the point I was arguing.

And San Diego is the 28th largest media market, a whole 8 spots higher than San Antonio. Not really "significant". Heck, Sacramento, in the same state, is the 20th largest media market. Shows you how important that factor is.

I am obviously aware of this. People are, in fact, confusing the distinctions between the ranking of city size and MSA, which is why I brought it up.

No one is confusing it.

The arts and cultural scenes, while growing, are limited and not sufficient given the size of the city. Intellectual stimulation is also severely lacking in the city.

So, you can't name me five (non-superficial) things. Gotcha.

The number of major league sports is also inferior to cities of lesser size (again due to the MSA).

The metro size has nothing to do with the amount of professional sports teams in San Antonio. Charlotte has two and they're the same metro size.

Kansas City has two and San Antonio is larger. Cleveland has the big three and San Antonio is larger.

I can continue.

The issue is the lack of expansion and the lack of teams relocating in the last 20 years.

[GEM-Texas]

To go back to the OP - having lived in NYC - you are not going to recreate the NY experience here. You try to - like the British did during the Raj or Americans did in pseudo-American towns in Saudi Arabia.

Yes, you can get a condo downtown next to a restaurant entitle Kale R' Us or Uni for Umami.

But if you want to be happy here - embrace the differences and enjoy the local things to do. Live with a piece of land, fish, hunt, shoot, ride horses, eat chicken fried steak - kiss the kale adios.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by GEM-Texas

To go back to the OP - having lived in NYC - you are not going to recreate the NY experience here. You try to - like the British did during the Raj or Americans did in pseudo-American towns in Saudi Arabia.

Yes, you can get a condo downtown next to a restaurant entitle Kale R' Us or Uni for Umami.

But if you want to be happy here - embrace the differences and enjoy the local things to do. Live with a piece of land, fish, hunt, shoot, ride horses, eat chicken fried steak - kiss the kale adios.

While I agree with the sentiment, no need to kiss the kale adios. Or eat chicken fried steak or shoot or hunt or fish.

Kale grows abundantly here. Probably better than in NYC

[staunchcharacter]

Originally Posted by GEM-Texas

Live with a piece of land, fish, hunt, shoot, ride horses, eat chicken fried steak - kiss the kale adios.

Disagree. Just because you live around rednecks doesn't mean you have to act like one too.

[rynetwo]

Originally Posted by staunchcharacter

Disagree. Just because you live around rednecks doesn't mean you have to act like one too.

I agree.

La Vernia has a large amount of people that have come from out of state that don't hunt, fish, etc and that IS out in the country.

To the OP anywhere from Alamo Heights through Southtown would be the closest thing to "home" you can get. (and it is no where near what you are used)

[dba07]

Originally Posted by teenwolf80

That wasn't the point I was arguing.

And San Diego is the 28th largest media market, a whole 8 spots higher than San Antonio. Not really "significant". Heck, Sacramento, in the same state, is the 20th largest media market. Shows you how important that factor is.



No one is confusing it.



So, you can't name me five (non-superficial) things. Gotcha.



The metro size has nothing to do with the amount of professional sports teams in San Antonio. Charlotte has two and they're the same metro size.

Kansas City has two and San Antonio is larger. Cleveland has the big three and San Antonio is larger.

I can continue.

The issue is the lack of expansion and the lack of teams relocating in the last 20 years.

5 is an arbitrary number. I named several significant things which are far from superficial for many people.

As for the sports expansion, you're arguing my point for me. Charlotte has two, SA one. KC has two as well.

If you think the metro size has nothing to do with the number of professional teams, I'm afraid you're mistaken.

In an MSA ranking, 8 spots can be quite significant. Regardless, San Diego is an infinitely better city than SA.

[GEM-Texas]

Rednecks, certainly not me - but I learned to like the outdoors rather than hankering for a pseudo-urban and reduced version of NYC.

I've seen those kind of folks still whing that they have to work here. They drive to Broadway and Southtown in some kind of bubble.