04-22-2009, 03:48 PM
Location: San Antonio
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True story:
Young girl, from a broken home becomes a stripper to help pay her way through college. Meets a recently divorced doctor while stripping at club. Doctor spent $$$ on her, gave her lavish gifts, bought her a car, condo, etc.
Girl finishes college. Becomes a sales rep for a drug company. She begins to date other men. Her doctor boyfriend becomes jealous and physically assaults her. Police get involved. They go to court.
Her story is splashed all over the news, exposing her past, ruining her reputation as well as the cardiologist's.
Her career is now in the toilet because no one respects her. Drug company cannot fire her for being an ex-stripper but it has hurt her relationships with her teammates, her territory has suffered and the other physicians within the medical community have ostracized her. She is a "dead man walking" because no one wants to be associated with her (or the doctor) and management has to be cautious.
My friend works for the same company and is embarrassed to be associated with this because it has made her job more difficult because of all the gossip surrounding this story. We all make questionable decisions throughout our lives but the ex-stripper's decision has affected her whole company. People should be held accountable at some point.
OP, please do your best to protect her from this type of environment and encourage your daughter to hold herself to a higher standard. She will be a better person for it.
04-22-2009, 07:00 PM
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Jenn2009, if I were you, I would not worry about your daughter. She has graduated college and has a degree so I highly doubt she will make the strip club into her "career", whether waiting tables or "moving on up" to dancing. For those on here criticizing her for taking a job at a strip club, you are simply not in her shoes. I'm not sure Jenn2009 if you live in the same city as her, but some suggested her moving in with you. For some individuals, I know that is not an option. Myself for example, recently moved here and cannot avoid rent and utilities by moving in with my parents because they live several hrs. away from here. Either way Jenn,2009, don't pay any attention to the individuals here trying to degrade her because of the environment she will be in. To be honest, I did think about waiting tables at a strip club, but have not. If I do in the near future it would be temporary. As a recent college graduate I can sympathize with your daughter because I am growing frustrated not being able to obtain a job in my field of study. It seems no one wants to hire someone without "experience" and for every job you apply, there's over 100 other applicants. What I'm trying to get at, I see why she would take a job there and as soon as she gets that "job in her field of study" most certainly she will leave it. So Jenn2009 don't worry too much, if she lives on her own and obviously graduated college she should have a good head on her shoulders. Oh, and for those commenting on how it will look being on her resume when interviewing with other employers, I highly doubt she would list that job on her resume......
04-22-2009, 07:03 PM
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Either way Jenn,2009, don't pay any attention to the individuals here trying to degrade her because of the environment she will be in.
The individuals
here degrading her?!?!?
That's hilarious.
04-22-2009, 08:47 PM
Location: San Antonio
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From both a client and a former waitress, if she really is working for a higher class men's clubs then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Yes, the outfits are revealing but nothing like the women on stage. If she has a good personality, she will make friends with the bouncers and they will do anything to protect you and sometimes just like to fight.
Also, without sounding rude, they won't be there for her. Of course, they will flirt but if your daughter was raised right it stops there. My mother always said that you can tell what kind of person you are by who your friends are and although that ISN'T always true, people will sure believe it. So that element, *obviously shown all throughout this thread* will be there. She and you both will have to say f.. it to whoever is so closed minded to say she has just ruined her life. I have come very far from those days... Just have faith she will make all the right decisions and continue to support her.
Erica
04-22-2009, 08:55 PM
Location: Rural Central Texas
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I forsee a CD field trip coming up!!!!
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....j/k
04-22-2009, 09:07 PM
Location: Rural Central Texas
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I have been to a few of these clubs back when the Spurs were in the finals and championships and there was no game broadcast on tv or room in the bars to see the game. My lovely wife suggested I visit a gentlemen's club because they would surely have the game on.
I did, and they did, and the patrons and dancers all sat around watching the game. There was little to no tipping or stripping those nights and the ladies did not feel inclined to expend the energy to dance when nobody was paying any attention to them.
My observations of those evenings before the game was that the wait staff costumes were suggestive, but no more than many girls wear to the mall nowadays. Just a little tighter in strategic areas to compete for attention with the topless women around them. The patrons flirted no more in these clubs than any bar or club environment I have been in. I saw less effort to grope the wait staff by any of the patrons than I have at that sports bar in the River Center mall.
I talked with one of the strippers at the Zebra before the third game and found that she was an associate professor at UTSA. I ran into her at school later that semester and joked with her that I would change my major to psychology now that I have found my dream professor. She was completely open about her career, her stripping and her boundries as to what "extra-curricular" activities she was not open to negotiation on. She seemed like a pretty normal woman to me, just a bit more open minded to her environment than most would be.
If you daughter is aiming to work at one of the upscale clubs, then I would have no concern for her safety or personal space at work. She will be better respected and "protected" than she would be at any dance club, sports bar, or "nite-spot" restaurant around. As long as you are comfortable with her morals and what she will and won't do for money, then this is as good a job as any.
It will carry a stigma, for sure, but not much more than being a Hooter's Girl or the like.
04-22-2009, 09:37 PM
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I talked with one of the strippers at the Zebra before the third game and found that she was an associate professor at UTSA. I ran into her at school later that semester and joked with her that I would change my major to psychology now that I have found my dream professor. She was completely open about her career, her stripping and her boundries as to what "extra-curricular" activities she was not open to negotiation on. She seemed like a pretty normal woman to me, just a bit more open minded to her environment than most would be.
our HELLO is moonlighting?
04-22-2009, 09:42 PM
Location: San Antonio
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GoTexan
True story:
Young girl, from a broken home becomes a stripper to help pay her way through college. Meets a recently divorced doctor while stripping at club. Doctor spent $$$ on her, gave her lavish gifts, bought her a car, condo, etc.
Girl finishes college. Becomes a sales rep for a drug company. She begins to date other men. Her doctor boyfriend becomes jealous and physically assaults her. Police get involved. They go to court.
Her story is splashed all over the news, exposing her past, ruining her reputation as well as the cardiologist's.
Her career is now in the toilet because no one respects her. Drug company cannot fire her for being an ex-stripper but it has hurt her relationships with her teammates, her territory has suffered and the other physicians within the medical community have ostracized her. She is a "dead man walking" because no one wants to be associated with her (or the doctor) and management has to be cautious.
My friend works for the same company and is embarrassed to be associated with this because it has made her job more difficult because of all the gossip surrounding this story. We all make questionable decisions throughout our lives but the ex-stripper's decision has affected her whole company. People should be held accountable at some point.
OP, please do your best to protect her from this type of environment and encourage your daughter to hold herself to a higher standard. She will be a better person for it.
I am as anti-strip club as a person can be (to a point - I'm not going to protest outside of one or anything), but this story says less about strip clubs and more about the lack of character of the woman herself. She could've met the recently divorced doctor anywhere. No one forced her to take his gifts, no one forced her to screw around on him, etc., etc.
She made a string of poor choices, and working in a strip club has zero to do with that.
04-23-2009, 02:13 AM
Location: Texas
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I talked with one of the strippers at the Zebra before the third game and found that she was an associate professor at UTSA. I ran into her at school later that semester and joked with her that I would change my major to psychology now that I have found my dream professor. She was completely open about her career, her stripping and her boundries as to what "extra-curricular" activities she was not open to negotiation on. She seemed like a pretty normal
woman to me, just a bit more open minded to her environment than most would be.
I find it hard to believe that an associate professor at utsa would be a stripper or working at strip club. I had an associate professor at utsa that had another job working at some gym. Then another professor that owned their own business.
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Strip clubs maybe the last honest business left in the USA, at least they haven't ask for a bailout yet.
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)