04-10-2007, 09:23 AM
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The schools are NOT terrible in Lake Elsinore. There are a couple with low test scores, including the one where I work, because most of the students are learning English, but the schools and teachers are great. And there are beautiful neighborhoods with very nice people. You have to find a place where you're comfortable.
I don't like the summer heat, either, and it seems to be more humid than it used to be, making it seem hotter. The temperature is actually a little bit more moderate overall than it was 40 years ago, but we used to only get a week or so of humidity, and now it's usually the whole month of August, at least.
04-17-2007, 10:58 AM
Location: California
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Well like I said before- we live in Wildomar not in Elsinore and speaking from my end of town, its pretty quiet. My commute isnt all that bad i get into work in Newport Beach in no time and it doesnt take me 3 hours either. I leave at 5:30am and am at my desk around 7:00am.... commute time even on the days I have to drive from Newport Beach to Garden Grove to Wildomar - I get off work at 5:30pm and am in my driveway by 7:30pm the latest.
New homes DO NOT make a safe neighborhood granted.... but the developers are moving out the not so great to make better and it is improving- like any palce you have good and bad areas and it does depend on what YOU consider safe and what your tolerance level is when it comes to crime- meaning what is it you can deal with and cant deal with. My kids go to Elsinore high and my littlest to a local elementary, no issues at all, teachers are great... I mean they get more attention here in studies from the teachers then they did in the OC. for us it was the right move.. but that is our opinion... I suggest driving around the areas and looking at what is around. DR Horton has great homes so do some others in areas that are changing quickly.
04-17-2007, 11:31 PM
Location: Southern California
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I still don't get why anyone would choose to live in Lake Elsinore.
04-18-2007, 03:36 PM
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I dont live in Elsinore, but besides that it has some very nice areas-- you (in general speaking ) can wait for it to be completely upgraded then when the prices are good and high you can move in and buy a flush and fart home. Or in general --buy a nice home now with property you know a nice sized lot--and your property value will go up, ours already has.
The area has changed a lot. Unfortuantely peoples opinions do not and most have the typical Calif thought process on things.. negative no matter what the positive.
I dont understand why people would want to pay anywhere from $600k to a Mil if not more for a home in Irvine-that you can touch the house next to you if you stand between them with your arms spread...
04-19-2007, 11:26 PM
Location: Southern California
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TMRC....let me start off by saying I hate to look at things at the glass half empty but when it comes to these forums where people are seriously considering one of the biggest choices in their lives by choosing a new area to live in I would like to offer my input on why I wouldn't recommend Lake Elsinore as my first choice. I live close enough to Lake Elsinore and have spent lots of time in that town this past year and I figure for anyone considering moving to this area it would be a better choice to live in Wildomar or Murrieta.
My child was recruited to attend a charter school in Lake Elsinore for kids gifted in math and science. They sold it as some great opportunity for those kids who were the "cream of the crop". I went ahead and allowed my child to to bussed into the Elsinore school district thinking this was to be something really great. Big dissapointment. I now suspect it was the school's attempt to raise their poor AYP scores by bringing in higher testing kids from other areas.
Nevertheless, I continued to be proactive in my child's education by getting involved in the PTA. It was not so pleasant having to attend PTA meetings that take twice as long as any other school's because every word has to be translated to a group of parents that refuse to learn English. Still, I remained on the board hoping to give whatever time and effort I could to benefit the kids.
For two days myself and another board member went to several local stores and companies hoping to get sponsorships to raise funds for the PTA. We offered to print thier business cards in our annual calendar in exchange for a small donation. What resulted was very few business being willing to do so because most said themselves in their own terms that Lake Elsinore was going downhill. At least three different stores in the downtown historical area complained that they had to move because Lake Elsinore was changing, but they did not describe it in such positive terms.
If Lake Elsinore is already your home town then you have a great chance to improve the quaility of live there. But I know when folks (myself included) see things on the internet they might imagine something that is quite different from reality. A less expensive house, even with the chance it will go up in value, does not a good home make.
04-21-2007, 01:22 AM
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darlahewitt
Remembering Lake Elsinore
I saw your question , " Is lake Elsinore's reputation bad or good?". I can only say this. In 1978 It was a beautiful place to live! I use to ride my horse everyday in the hills of Lake Elsinore. you might call me a little bit of a dreamer but , the 70's were great! Not a care in the world but, my horse and I. We moved in 1979 with my parents ,sister ,and brothers. We do visit it from time to time. It is sad to see the hills all full of houses and freeways. lake Elsinore was a beautiful country a time ago, still is. You just have to remember how it was in the 70's. I guess to anserw your question, I really don't know if it is full of drugs. But, isn't the whole world full of drugs these days? You just have to know how to work around them, teach, and talk to your children about them everyday.
good luck!
darla
I remember Elsinore from 1969-1971. It was nice and small, a nice country town with a nice lake. I see it's really changed! Drastically! I am disappointed to hear that the lake is now brown and oily.
We used to live a few blocks from the lake on Joy street. Can't remember the other cross street. Been too long. There was a Red Garter bar right around the corner.
Many years have passed since my family moved away from there. I'm now in Nevada, and according to alot of posters on these boards, Nevada is also filled with drugs, gangs,etc. It's really not that bad though. Certain area's can be, but where I live it's pretty nice.
There are those that see the glass as half empty or full. The negative posters are no doubt from the half empty planet.
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04-22-2007, 02:27 AM
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Do they still have the "Sky Diving" school there on the lake?
04-23-2007, 01:01 PM
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Yes, they still have skydiving. I think they may be moving it because there is a new golf course and a bunch of nice homes planned for that area. They are also building a marina with a huge boat mall over on that side of the lake. Where you can test drive your boat before buying it. BTW the lake is not brown and full of oil. I don't know where these people come up with this stuff. I lived in Santa Monica for 5 years and Lake Elsinore is much safer and the homes are 2 million dollars cheaper. North Lake is a great place to live and with all the new stuff planned the entire city is going to continue to get better. This place has good schools (my girls school has a 10 rating for the state) new shopping, lots of parks, nice mountains, a beautiful lake, and 2500sf homes with large lots in the mid $400's.
05-03-2007, 10:40 AM
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I am really surprised-- all I read is-- "Elsinore has a bad reputation" can a reputation not improve? change? upgrade? We live close to Elsinore, Wildomar in fact...-- other then your everyday average serial killer in 1995 who was a woman (by the way) and MURDERED in Canyon Lake which is a pretty uppity part of town-- it has been uneventful at least for us. But again there are killers and crime in Redondo Beach and Beverly Hilsl and people still flock to live there. I mean how many times can the people who live here and have moved here form the OC tell you its changing? Not liek we didnt read up on the area and drive around and ask before we uprooted our whole family???!! and peope still harp on the reputation? New buildings, business, homes are being out in.. The crap sections and Meth stuff is leaving.. There is Meth and Pot in Dimond Bar huge homes filled with this stuff-- You have even had some major crimes in beloved Temecula-not to mention Stash Houses for illegals...
Now- I have it nice that I am closer to the freeway and easily pop on and off-the ramps then you guys-there are no waiting at signals like in Temecula which bottles up like crazy even on weekends at Winchester, Murrietta HS and that Calif Oaks or Rancho Calif.... not to mention if traffic is a bit nutty on the way home I can hop off at Cajalco and take Temescal Canyon to Lake- Lakeshore and have a really smooth and enjoyable ride home.
Please enough with the bad reputation, its like a broken record--- You live in Murrietta or Temecula -- for god sake your kids (gen speaking) in high school had a Fight Club-and just recently a robbery at Starbucks LOL crime is everywhere-- but things change-- lord knows when I lived for a brief time in Temecula there was NO Chapparel High School it was sheep land-- there was even a llama farm off the 15--and you had to pick up mail at the post office in Old Town oh Ya-- Murrietta Hot Springs was still a full blown resort. So things do change.
05-03-2007, 10:48 AM
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we also have Storm Baseball which is tons of fun for the family, the Elsinore Outlets and Skydiving... we enjoy watching that on weekends.. The lake is not brown and oily we were just thier a few weekends ago. However it is drying up, and they (whoever they are); are building homes and building in the dry lake bed- not a very good idea --considering it could become full again..never underestimate nature. Horseback ridin gis quite abundant here and we have a wonderful Day Spa called Jolie that we go to at least once a month mmmm.. and we have McDonalds so I guess you can say we are in civilization.
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Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)