Trump visits San Diego (dangerous, American, Mexican)

[elchevere]

I'm confused...overthrowing a dictator in Iraq (which did not attack us on 9/11 and resulted in our diverting resources from capturing the guy that did) was good but ridding ourselves of another dictator in Libya (who had blood on his hands from Pan Am Lockerbie that the greatest leader in world history failed to remove back in the 80's) was bad?....the entire unraveling of the Middle East began once we invaded Iraq, back in 2003....and talking about how strength and saber rattling will keep us safe, 9/11 happened on a "tough guys" watch (yeah, I know Bill was busy having his cigar played with a few years earlier while the greatest ruler in world history helped abet OBL into power in the first place). Oh yeah, Benghazi--4 dead, worst terror attack ever, but Beirut--241 Marines killed, OK since the greatest ever was in power so let's give him a pass.

Can you imagine if 9/11 had happened on the Kenyan's watch and he took his eye off the ball from capturing the perpetrator to invade Mexico?

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Aside from the inactions, the giving of Libya over to Moslem extremists, and of course, the so-called disastrous "reset" with Russia, and the miserable outcome in Syria.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by elchevere

I'm confused...overthrowing a dictator in Iraq (which did not attack us on 9/11 and resulted in our diverting resources from capturing the guy that did) was good but ridding ourselves of another dictator in Libya (who had blood on his hands from Pan Am Lockerbie that the greatest leader in world history failed to remove back in the 80's) was bad?....the entire unraveling of the Middle East began once we invaded Iraq, back in 2003....and talking about how strength and saber rattling will keep us safe, 9/11 happened on a "tough guys" watch (yeah, I know Bill was busy having his cigar played with a few years earlier while the greatest ruler in world history helped abet OBL into power in the first place). Oh yeah, Benghazi--4 dead, worst terror attack ever, but Beirut--241 Marines killed, OK since the greatest ever was in power so let's give him a pass.

Can you imagine if 9/11 had happened on the Kenyan's watch and he took his eye off the ball from capturing the perpetrator to invade Mexico?

I opposed the war in Iraq and had my.house egged because of the placards there in opposition.

Benghazi is overblown, but it is nonetheless significant since emails were not provided, illness was feigned and obscure anti Islam videos were blamed.

[elchevere]

i can spin as many, more actually, conspiracies and higher death totals on the GOP side. Fact is the GOP has been going after the Clintons for decades and Obama from day 1, hoping something will stick as they feel entitled to the Presidency. Only thing helping the GOP now is that Hillary is such a poor campaigner and her husband has seemed to have lost energy and his former mojo which makes him no longer makes an asset. If this were a football game, it would be who wants the Presidency less.

[hitman619]

Originally Posted by elchevere

i can spin as many, more actually, conspiracies and higher death totals on the GOP side. Fact is the GOP has been going after the Clintons for decades and Obama from day 1, hoping something will stick as they feel entitled to the Presidency. Only thing helping the GOP now is that Hillary is such a poor campaigner and her husband has seemed to have lost energy and his former mojo which makes him no longer makes an asset. If this were a football game, it would be who wants the Presidency less.

Please quit wasting your time.These people on the Left and Right are Sheep.
Most of these people were lead to believe that, whatever political party they support really has their best interest at heart

[1AngryTaxPayer]

IMO political parties should be outlawed. This would entice people to actually investigate what the candidate has done in the past. Not what they can promise, which are usually lies.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by bloom

Lol, trumpf supporters are more peaceful, non-reactive, and (wall) constructive, oh impartial CaliRestoration

They may be causing trouble too, but it's obvious that the Bernie/Hilary supporters cause the lion's share of the disruption and violence. I'm not sure how you can even argue that with a straight face.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by hitman619

Please quit wasting your time.These people on the Left and Right are Sheep.
Most of these people were lead to believe that, whatever political party they support really has their best interest at heart

It's sad really. Seeing these Bernie supporters and BLM activist toss police cars over and set buildings on fire shows just how clueless they are. Bernie will categorically make their situations worse off, and they are passionate for the opportunity.

[bloom]

Originally Posted by elchevere

Can you imagine if 9/11 had happened on the Kenyan's watch and he took his eye off the ball from capturing the perpetrator to invade Mexico?

US President Barack Obama led a successful lethal capture of UBL (var. OBL)

[elchevere]

You might have missed my sarcasm

Originally Posted by bloom

US President Barack Obama led a successful lethal capture of UBL (var. OBL)

[bloom]

Originally Posted by elchevere

You might have missed my sarcasm

I caught it. My response was for others.