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Old 02-23-2010, 01:17 PM
 
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So I am working in Dallas, TX today. And why is the pay scale in Dallas so high!?

My company moved it HQ to Dallas, and is currently paying software and network engineers starting at 75K-82K per year.

That is the same rate of pay we get in LA and SD. Why in the world Dallas pay scale so high? and the cost of living is so cheap!
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
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You should move there.
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Probably b/c for some there needs to be a strong incentive to move to Dallas since climate, scenery, and culture won't be up there. A low wage and low cost of living isn't any better than a higher wage and a higher cost of living but a high wage and low cost of living is pretty enticing.
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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You should move there.
If only I had that option...................... I can deal with heat for a pay increase!

Dallas seems like a very nice city. Pretty flat but impressive. DFW has 6.5 millions folks. Dallas has a very pretty skyline much better than ours in San Diego and much better than LA.

I am working here for a week.
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Coastal San Diego
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> If only I had that option...................... I can deal with heat for a pay increase!

It's not just the heat. It's working with Texans. The natives ain't the brightest paperclips in the box.
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Old 02-23-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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High regional pay scales are not driven by a desire to lure in outside talent, if that were true, the inverse would be true, and highly desirable places would offer low wages. With the exception of vacation and resort cities that is largely untrue. Also the idea that physical desirability and climate is a primary driver for relocators is somewhat off as well, remember TX is not only the third-most populated state in the US but is among the fastest growing at the same time.

Regional wages are a factor of regional economic activity, and the pay scale in Texas is high for white collar jobs because there is a concentration of large corporate, manufacturing, and industry, and many of those businesses are in high profit sectors like energy, finance, etc. On the west coast you don't see that type of economic diversity outside of Greater LA or SF Bay, where the pay scale is high but cost of living is high. Also TX is business friendly, no income tax state, union-unfriendly and light on environmental restrictions, which typically translates into higher profit and eventually wages.

Dallas or Houston should not be contrasted with San Diego but LA/SF/Seattle, Austin is a more appropriate apples-to-apples comparison vs. tier 2 economies like Portland / San Diego or Sacramento

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Old 02-23-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Also the idea that physical desirability and climate is a primary driver for relocators is somewhat off as well, remember TX is not only the third-most populated state in the US but is among the fastest growing at the same time.
I wasn't trying to say those were primary drivers for relocation for most people, jobs are the biggest reason then probably followed by a lower cost of living, which we obviously never see on this particular forum. If it wasn't for those two things I just don't see why many people would move to Texas.

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Old 02-23-2010, 06:18 PM
 
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So I am working in Dallas, TX today. And why is the pay scale in Dallas so high!?

My company moved it HQ to Dallas, and is currently paying software and network engineers starting at 75K-82K per year.

That is the same rate of pay we get in LA and SD. Why in the world Dallas pay scale so high? and the cost of living is so cheap!
It's because Dallas kind of blows for people that are on the younger end. I got an offer to move there post-college and decided against it.
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Old 02-23-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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It's not just the heat. It's working with Texans. The natives ain't the brightest paperclips in the box.
We have an office in TX and some of the people there are very good and some of them stink. The exact same thing can be said about the people in our San Diego office.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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Also the idea that physical desirability and climate is a primary driver for relocators is somewhat off as well, remember TX is not only the third-most populated state in the US but is among the fastest growing at the same time.
Actually Texas is the 2nd most populated state. Has been since 1998 (//www.city-data.com/states/Texas-Population.html). Also it's not just among the fastest growing, it's the fastest: http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14063876.

The relatively good wages paid to skilled technical employees in cities like Dallas and Houston are all about supply and demand... and that may be attributed to a myriad of factors -- increased corporate presence, talent pool available, and I'm sure to some extent the desirability of the location. So I'd say there is a bit of truth to most of the comments people have made...

Still, Texas has been importing talent from the rest of the country (and world) since the 60's -- it's nothing new. A lot like it, some don't. Certainly coming from CA, the scenery and weather would be a bummer. But for people from the rest of the country, it's really not. Much nicer than the NE state I moved from...
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