Specifically how did the new 49ers Stadium in Santa Clara receive public-funds, taxpayer dollars to help it break ground (San Francisco: home, transfer)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

so the new 49ers stadium, it was completely privately-funded, no taxpayer dollars involved? from other sources i've heard, read that there was public-funds, taxpayer dollars involved

Okay and there is a publicly financed ballpark in Downtown San Diego and a privately financed ballpark near Downtown SF. You can find examples of publicly financed sports venues in SoCal and 100% privately financed ones in NorCal. So I dont see why you are claiming some sort of regional differences regarding financing for sports venues.

[WantToHaveALife]

Originally Posted by sav858

Okay and there is a publicly financed ballpark in Downtown San Diego and a privately financed ballpark near Downtown SF. You can find examples of publicly financed sports venues in SoCal and 100% privately financed ones in NorCal. So I dont see why you are claiming some sort of regional differences regarding financing for sports venues.

Well it's because i'm kinda getting at the fact why L.A. does not have an NFL team, why they lost the NFL and why the NFL still hasn't returned to L.A., because L.A. for a very long time did not see anything wrong with the Coliseum or Rose Bowl

[sav858]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

Well it's because i'm kinda getting at the fact why L.A. does not have an NFL team, why they lost the NFL and why the NFL still hasn't returned to L.A., because L.A. for a very long time did not see anything wrong with the Coliseum or Rose Bowl

Yeah and that has nothing to do with differences between SoCal and NorCal.

[Venom Point]

I really with the city of SF had worked something out to build a stadium village in Hunters Point like planned. Driving to Santa Clara is going to be a nightmare.

[DinsdalePirahna]

[quote=WantToHaveALife;26135697]...The lack of a new, state-of-the-art stadium has also cost California the opportunity to host the country's biggest events.../QUOTE]

I don't know about that.
2 Olympics Games
7 superbowls
A couple of world series
3 World Cup soccer finals

[Hard8]

Originally Posted by Venom Point

I really with the city of SF had worked something out to build a stadium village in Hunters Point like planned. Driving to Santa Clara is going to be a nightmare.

And for those of us without a car (I believe about 1/3 of San Francisco's population), well, I guess we are going to have to stay home. The new site has horrible connectivity to Caltrain and of course BART doesn't run nearly that far south. If I Google Map from my place in SF to the stadium site, and chose the public transit option, its telling me the best route is 3 hours one-way. Sounds like fun, huh? 6 hours round trip for someone that lives in San Francisco just to watch the San Francisco 49ers play.

I'm assuming (or at least, I hope) they will be running shuttles from the closest Caltrain station to the stadium, but I imagine even if they do that won't cut out much time, and will still be a nightmare to ride on.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Hard8

And for those of us without a car (I believe about 1/3 of San Francisco's population), well, I guess we are going to have to stay home. The new site has horrible connectivity to Caltrain and of course BART doesn't run nearly that far south. If I Google Map from my place in SF to the stadium site, and chose the public transit option, its telling me the best route is 3 hours one-way. Sounds like fun, huh? 6 hours round trip for someone that lives in San Francisco just to watch the San Francisco 49ers play.

I'm assuming (or at least, I hope) they will be running shuttles from the closest Caltrain station to the stadium, but I imagine even if they do that won't cut out much time, and will still be a nightmare to ride on.

Not as remote as Candlestick. About how many people get in there without a car?

The Santa Clara site was chosen with transportation in mind, and three hours sounds way overblown. Caltrain to Light Rail is pretty simple from SF. That site is served by six bus lines, Light Rail, Amtrack, is a few miles from Caltrain, is right between 101 and 237, and has 11 different highway interchange options to get into the parking lots. Should be plenty of ways to get in and out of there in reasonable time, unlike the one way in and out of the Stick.

Hunters' Point is thoroughly contaminated, past the point of making it cost-effective to clean it up and then build an expensive stadium on it, hoping nobody glows green from attending an event there.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Hard8

And for those of us without a car (I believe about 1/3 of San Francisco's population), well, I guess we are going to have to stay home. The new site has horrible connectivity to Caltrain and of course BART doesn't run nearly that far south. If I Google Map from my place in SF to the stadium site, and chose the public transit option, its telling me the best route is 3 hours one-way. Sounds like fun, huh? 6 hours round trip for someone that lives in San Francisco just to watch the San Francisco 49ers play.

I'm assuming (or at least, I hope) they will be running shuttles from the closest Caltrain station to the stadium, but I imagine even if they do that won't cut out much time, and will still be a nightmare to ride on.

I can guarantee you they will have shuttles from Caltrain and possibly up in SF. Caltrain will likely run special trains too, which is what I believe they do for Giants games. I highly doubt it will take 3 hours one way to get to a 49ers game from SF once the new stadium is built.

From where I live in the East Bay it probably will be the same and possibly even faster than getting to Candlestick, which is an absolute pain to get to.

[Venom Point]

Originally Posted by Hard8

And for those of us without a car (I believe about 1/3 of San Francisco's population), well, I guess we are going to have to stay home. The new site has horrible connectivity to Caltrain and of course BART doesn't run nearly that far south. If I Google Map from my place in SF to the stadium site, and chose the public transit option, its telling me the best route is 3 hours one-way. Sounds like fun, huh? 6 hours round trip for someone that lives in San Francisco just to watch the San Francisco 49ers play.

I'm assuming (or at least, I hope) they will be running shuttles from the closest Caltrain station to the stadium, but I imagine even if they do that won't cut out much time, and will still be a nightmare to ride on.

It's crazy, from my condo in SOMA i'll be in traffic pretty much the entire way. Santa Clara is San Jose as far as I'm concerned.

[WantToHaveALife]

[quote=DinsdalePirahna;26161569]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

...The lack of a new, state-of-the-art stadium has also cost California the opportunity to host the country's biggest events.../QUOTE]

I don't know about that.
2 Olympics Games
7 superbowls
A couple of world series
3 World Cup soccer finals

i'm talking about for the Future, California will not host another Super Bowl until a new, modern stadium is built, or any of those other Future events, that was the past