Tenderloin Profiled On PBS (San Francisco: rentals, neighborhoods, theater)

[Motion]

Any opinions on how to improve this area?





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[BroadwayDiva]

Drug dealers and criminals don't belong anywhere. They harm communities in a million ways possible.
I'm actually for gentrifying this area and slowly pushing out the undesirables such as drug dealers, etc. Why so much compassion for these kinds?

I don't know how possible it is, but they can gentrify and still possibly keep this slightly more affordable for lower middle class income earners, not necessarily super high-tech income. But I think the bigger problem is the residents and the people per se are the ones who need the bigger improvement. These people need to get up, do what they can to make their lives better instead of hanging out on the streets begging for drug money.

[checkup]

Walked through the Tenderloin yesterday unintentionally as it just sorta jumps out of nowhere after you walk past posh Union Square, and then suddenly ends when you hit Market Street

it's a high concentration of utter blight and poverty--and it really really smells

i can't think of a good way to fix it. Quite honestly, I was just looking at buildings and thinking of blowing them up

[Erratikmind]

As long as I can remember going back to the 1960s, the Tenderloin area has always been in terrible shape.

That area happens to be the S.F. theater district. I recall leaving performances from the Golden Gate Theatre at night and the area took on a different feel and look. Walking to the car at night was always an adventure.

I believe this area has the highest concentration of liquor stores.

[Motion]

Originally Posted by Erratikmind

I believe this area has the highest concentration of liquor stores.

Maybe that's part of the problem? I've heard for years people complaining about too many liquor stores in poor urban areas. Many of these areas have plenty of liquor stores and few grocery stores(food deserts).

[Motion]

At 4:20 of the video.

Is there some merit to that guy's complaint that non profits play a part in hampering needed change in that area?

[California Vagabond]

Agreed with Erratikmind: a problem area for as long as I can remember, going back to the 1960s.

[checkup]

Originally Posted by Motion

At 4:20 of the video.

Is there some merit to that guy's complaint that non profits play a part in hampering needed change in that area?

In my cynical view, yes. In general non-profits in SF/SV have a vested interested in keeping the poor, mentally ill, and homeless around since that's what justifies the non-profits' existence. They obviously have to show some progress, but actually creating self-sufficient ppl and neighborhoods would wipe out the need for non-profits. And their tactics have worked--SF/SV gives by far more money to non-profits than any other major city; it's actually a large part of the budget. If non-profits didn't exist (along with the absurd zoning and development rules for Tenderloin that they've succeeded in getting passed), the potent market forces would have gentrified Tenderloin long ago or at least today with the tech boom. It's in a prime location.

[jade408]

Unlike other cities, SF has made a conscious effort to really concentrate all possible social services into the Tenderloin. And the other neighborhoods push any proposed "social service" into the Tenderloin as well.

Not long ago, I was at a party and were were discussing the Tenderloin. With all of the SROs etc, the Tenderloin is basically at its peak income value. Tearing down a place for new rentals would lose the land owners money (even with todays inflated prices). SROs you don't have to bother keeping up on the maintenance, because no one cares if poor people live in terrible conditions. , You can still charge a boatload of money, and in many cases the rent is guaranteed because they payer is the government. It is a great place to be a slumlord.

You can easily rent a single small bedroom with no kitchen or private bathroom for $600-800.

[professorjpj1]

So by "gentrifying" an area, you WELCOME the wealthy and displace the poor!! Gentrification is quite evil, in all its forms.. Its ONLY good for the wealthy, the yuppies, and the hipsters!! Poor people need to live as well!!