Moved to the Bay for 1 year from out of state, moved back. My review of it.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatCurve

It's the other way around. The majority of innovation starts with government funded research which then leads to the private sector building on top of that fundamental research. The Internet is a prime example.

In fact, Hillary Clinton knows so much about tech innovation that she thinks you wipe a hard disk "with a cloth". LMAO!!

It's not the other way around, I made no mention of government funded research. No one is disputing that government funded research can sometimes help the private sector but it has no relevance whatsoever on whether the private sector itself is innovative and booming. The pubic/private innovation can happen concurrently or not concurrently. What I'm talking about is obviously private sector innovation, I don't understand why you keep focusing on the public sector.

What Hillary Clinton knows or don't know has absolutely no relevance in our discussion whatsover. If she's president, she does not actually have to understand all the ins and outs of technology to foster a creative environment.
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Originally Posted by TheGreatCurve

It's the other way around. The majority of innovation starts with government funded research which then leads to the private sector building on top of that fundamental research. The Internet is a prime example.

In fact, Hillary Clinton knows so much about tech innovation that she thinks you wipe a hard disk "with a cloth". LMAO!!

You should be really pushing Congress, not the President, for how much money gets spent on R&D. The fact is the recession and Congress' push to cut down on discretionary spending over the last ~5 years has been the bigger issue - not President Obama's actual feelings on Government-funded research (which he is very in favor of):

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"The odds of Congress appropriating funding for it are slim to nil because the past track records of experts picked by the Centers for Disease Control to do their studies has been so skewed," Gottlieb said. "Our concern is, in the past, the government research done by the Centers for Disease Control has been extremely biased [against firearms]. That's why we opposed funding of it."

The coming R&D crash

Thanks to budget pressures and the looming sequester cuts, federal R&D spending is set to stagnate in the coming decade. The National Institutes of Health's budget is scheduled to drop 7.6 percent in the next five years. Research programs in energy, agriculture and defense will decline by similar amounts. NASA's research budget is on pace to drop to its lowest level since 1988.

Many lawmakers seem to take the alarmist view. President Obama in particular has insisted that the United States can't fall behind on R&D. A sample line: "We've got to make sure that we've got the best science and research in the world."

Finding the money to do that will be difficult in an era when Congress is insisting on tight budgets. Some policymakers have tried to put forward novel approaches to R&D — like Sen. Lisa Murkowski's idea for an "Advanced Energy Trust Fund" that would dedicate a portion of revenues from oil and gas drilling to energy research. (Obama embraced a similar idea in his State of the Union.) Other economists have suggested that the government should lean more heavily on prizes or tax credits as a way of funding innovation.

Yet many of those ideas are fairly small-bore. Getting R&D back to where it was at the height of the space race, as Obama has suggested, will either take a hefty portion of policy creativity — or a big shift in budget politics in the years ahead.

It looks like general government indifference in funding basic R&D (or disagreement on what "should" be funded) is more to blame than "LOL, Obama...". If you want this to change for any future president, you'll have to make more changes than just the party of the person in power. I don't see this changing under Trump or Clinton.

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This literally has nothing to do with the Bay Area anymore...