Gentrification in Hayward (middle-class, to buy, calculator)

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by Oakformonday

I agree. My statement is not really true for Hayward. I don't see the data but it is logical that some being displaced from Oakland would move to Hayward. Maybe you did??? I thought you wrote somewhere recently that you had left Oakland for a nearby municipality.

Yeah, I left Oakland

I did move within 15-20 mins from where I used to live, but after spending the last ~7 years singing the praises of the city and actively encouraging plenty of people to move, I'm going to keep my mouth shut about where I specifically live now

[netaxcat]

Back in the early 1990's, Sun Microsystems (a top tech company at that time) had a nice campus at Hayward, right next to the Hwy 92.

I used to work at Oracle in the 1990's, and we often went over to Hayward to attend meetings at Sun Microsystems.

Nowadays, with many tech-employees moving their families to living in/around Hayward; eventually, it would make sense for their companies to put branch office/campus in Hayward close to where their employees live.

Meanwhile, Hayward is working on allowing buildings (up to seven-story high) around downtown. It will breath new life (residence, retail, commercial, etc.) to the area, and some are already happening.

Also, the Hayward Industrial Area has lands that are undeveloped/underdeveloped. I always thought that it would be a potential area for companies like Tesla to expand to.

Hayward is in the center of the Bay Area, with comfortable bay weather, and close to many major freeways.

The prices (residential and commercial) are still relatively reasonable compared to other bay area cities. It has potentials, and changes are happening everyday.

[04kL4nD]

Hayward is definitely fortunate to have 2 BART stations, 580/880/238 freeways running through it, direct access to the San Mateo Bridge and great Bay Area weather. If the city can encourage smart residential construction (affordable midrise apartments/condos near transit centers, and affordable starter homes to replace swaths of unused industrial lots) at a fast pace and lure in businesses, it could absolutely be the next Fremont (a former cow-town that's now incredibly expensive with outstanding public schools and major centers), or even Livermore or Dublin. Hopefully they can seize the window of opportunity they have, unlike Oakland or SF where the only real construction has been luxury units that few can afford. Those cities are pretty much screwed right now, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of reasons to see any radical changes any time soon.

The problem with Hayward is mostly rooted in perception. Like Oakland, it continues to have a somewhat negative reputation that stems from the urban decay that took place decades ago. Most people still lump it in with areas like Vallejo, Richmond, Concord (certain parts at least), Pittsburg, etc because they associate it with being a run down, low income type of place, instead of grouping it with places like San Leandro, San Lorenzo, Castro Valley, Union City, Newark, etc that are solidly middle class and "normal" for Bay Area standards.

I'm definitely curious to see what happens to the city and I'm rooting for it to succeed, but the pessimist in me thinks that as soon as the next economic downturn happens in the Bay Area, it will be one of the first places to regresses back to being one of the "dumpy" parts of the Bay Area.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

Hayward is definitely fortunate to have 2 BART stations, 580/880/238 freeways running through it, direct access to the San Mateo Bridge and great Bay Area weather. If the city can encourage smart residential construction (affordable midrise apartments/condos near transit centers, and affordable starter homes to replace swaths of unused industrial lots) at a fast pace and lure in businesses, it could absolutely be the next Fremont (a former cow-town that's now incredibly expensive with outstanding public schools and major centers), or even Livermore or Dublin. Hopefully they can seize the window of opportunity they have, unlike Oakland or SF where the only real construction has been luxury units that few can afford. Those cities are pretty much screwed right now, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of reasons to see any radical changes any time soon.

The problem with Hayward is mostly rooted in perception. Like Oakland, it continues to have a somewhat negative reputation that stems from the urban decay that took place decades ago. Most people still lump it in with areas like Vallejo, Richmond, Concord (certain parts at least), Pittsburg, etc because they associate it with being a run down, low income type of place, instead of grouping it with places like San Leandro, San Lorenzo, Castro Valley, Union City, Newark, etc that are solidly middle class and "normal" for Bay Area standards.

I'm definitely curious to see what happens to the city and I'm rooting for it to succeed, but the pessimist in me thinks that as soon as the next economic downturn happens in the Bay Area, it will be one of the first places to regresses back to being one of the "dumpy" parts of the Bay Area.

It sounds like an exciting vision, if the Powers That Be have the wisdom to make it happen! And yeah, affordable housing, including starter homes, is a great idea.

[WizardOfRadical]

At least part of San Leandro and San Lorenzo have Arroyo HS, which still has a pulse.

Hayward just has horrible schools, which will only attract low income families.

Not sure Yaystack has the urban bones to attract the hep crowd.

It was a farm town until WW2, and really pretty much an old school tractoburb.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by netaxcat

Back in the early 1990's, Sun Microsystems (a top tech company at that time) had a nice campus at Hayward, right next to the Hwy 92.

I used to work at Oracle in the 1990's, and we often went over to Hayward to attend meetings at Sun Microsystems.

Nowadays, with many tech-employees moving their families to living in/around Hayward; eventually, it would make sense for their companies to put branch office/campus in Hayward close to where their employees live.

Meanwhile, Hayward is working on allowing buildings (up to seven-story high) around downtown. It will breath new life (residence, retail, commercial, etc.) to the area, and some are already happening.

Also, the Hayward Industrial Area has lands that are undeveloped/underdeveloped. I always thought that it would be a potential area for companies like Tesla to expand to.

Hayward is in the center of the Bay Area, with comfortable bay weather, and close to many major freeways.

The prices (residential and commercial) are still relatively reasonable compared to other bay area cities. It has potentials, and changes are happening everyday.

I agree about the pricing and I think the way things are going Hayward can move up and outgrow it's reputation. I grew up in Hayward and made jokes it was the armpit of the Bay Area, but it wasn't so bad. I see downtown is so much nicer now and I've hung out there a few times.
Everyone is right about the weather, it's pretty unbeatable. It's also got a great location too.

[MinervaPallasAthena]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

Yeah, I left Oakland

I did move within 15-20 mins from where I used to live, but after spending the last ~7 years singing the praises of the city and actively encouraging plenty of people to move, I'm going to keep my mouth shut about where I specifically live now

White Walnut Creek

[Oakformonday]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

Yeah, I left Oakland

I did move within 15-20 mins from where I used to live, but after spending the last ~7 years singing the praises of the city and actively encouraging plenty of people to move, I'm going to keep my mouth shut about where I specifically live now

Of course we should respect each others privacy! I hope you can find your niche in the new hood.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

Hayward just has horrible schools, which will only attract low income families.

Define "low income". I'd say to be able to buy into Hayward today you really can't be low income.

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by MinervaPallasAthena

White Walnut Creek

Not even close, but thanks for trying.