The San Francisco Trash/Needles/Poop in the Streets Containment Thread (Fillmore: standard of living, build)

[Taksan]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

"Florida functions fine" hahahahaha said NO ONE EVER.

Florida is just the poor man's California. Even the Universities there are unimpressive. And even then, Republicans only win there through insane levels of voter suppression. But even in Florida, latinos will grow faster than anyone else. And your inevitable conversion to liberalism will come along with it.

Except the Latino vote outside of Southern Miami leans GOP

Florida works very well indeed for the native Floridians. We have it set up just right and we intend to keep it that way

[Scott456]

Guys, can we just focus on the subject of SF poop patrollers?

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by veritased

Um, yeah, Latino's are hardly liberal, that's where you are precisely wrong. Culturally they are the opposite of you. They are low hanging fruit for conservative conversion, once they realize what liberals will bring to their future. The only thing DNC offers latino's is promise of citizenship, in exchange for their vote. It's as simple a bribe as that. It's been an effective deal so far, but they are not long term loyal to your platform.

Oh, and your arrogant attitude of the everything outside your California enclave is exactly why Trump happened, and why Trump will win reelection. Keep it up ! We need your disdain to fuel the unwashed masses.

They might not be "liberal" in the cultural sense - being very family oriented and religious - but at least in California, the GOP pretty much have thrown away the Latino vote for the last 3 decades. Gracias, Gobernador Pete Wilson!

[Oakformonday]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Sorry Fox News Viewers. You cant complain that SF is too expensive for non millionaires and then smugly create threads to "expose" and mock a city job whose salary provides an actual living wage that is about the income required to buy a condo in SF.

So do you want non millionaires in SF or not? Should city employees be able to afford to live in SF or not?

Are you saying one can purchase a condo in SF whilst only making $71,000/year? I was looking at Redfin out of curiosity and there are some BMR (Below Market Rate) condos one could qualify at that salary but purchasing market rate is nearly impossible unless one has family that will gift a significant down payment. Oakland would be a better choice at that salary and even then, one would be pushing it.

I believe it has already been established that the $184k figure with benefits is not correct. The base salary seems quite reasonable.

[USDefault]

Fresh news report,with statistics, documenting ever-rising rates of public human defecation on San Francisco's streets. According to the article, San Francisco is experiencing a "massive increase" in reported human feces on public streets.


Although the "reported" incidents of public human defecation are rapidly rising, the actual amount of human feces rates are "likely even higher" than the documented public feces reports, according to the article.


The article quotes the San Francisco mayor:

"I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I've ever seen growing up here," San Francisco Mayor London Breed told NBC in a 2018 interview. "That is a huge problem, and we are not just talking about from dogs — we're talking about from humans."

For additional statistics concerning San Francisco's deteriorating conditions with drug needles, public feces, and garbage, please see this thread.

[Delahanty]

Originally Posted by USDefault

Fresh news report,with statistics, documenting ever-rising rates of public human defecation on San Francisco's streets. According to the article, San Francisco is experiencing a "massive increase" in reported human feces on public streets.


Although the "reported" incidents of public human defecation are rapidly rising, the actual amount of human feces rates are "likely even higher" than the documented public feces reports, according to the article.


The article quotes the San Francisco mayor:

For additional statistics concerning San Francisco's deteriorating conditions with drug needles, public feces, and garbage, please see this thread.

"...more than from dogs," says the mayor? Dogs? Doesn't San Francisco have a "pooper scooper" law in effect for dogs lol?

[skygazer1]

Originally Posted by USDefault

Fresh news report,with statistics, documenting ever-rising rates of public human defecation on San Francisco's streets. According to the article, San Francisco is experiencing a "massive increase" in reported human feces on public streets.

Every now and then, I need to jump in here and remind new viewers - SF does NOT have an "armageddon" of poop, needles, homeless. The problem is limited to a very small percentage of the surface area of the City, basically from Market St/Tenderloin/Civic Center down Mission way. The rest of the city, where most local people live and play, is a beautiful, pleasant, serene place of great natural beauty and excellent weather.

Just go out and see for yourself, stop reading and believing these incendiary and headline-grabbing "fake news" reporting!

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by skygazer1

Every now and then, I need to jump in here and remind new viewers - SF does NOT have an "armageddon" of poop, needles, homeless. The problem is limited to a very small percentage of the surface area of the City, basically from Market St/Tenderloin/Civic Center down Mission way. The rest of the city, where most local people live and play, is a beautiful, pleasant, serene place of great natural beauty and excellent weather.

Just go out and see for yourself, stop reading and believing these incendiary and headline-grabbing "fake news" reporting!

Eh - you are splitting hairs to account for any homeless seen (or not seen) on any street on any day in any particular area, despite some areas being ‘worse’ than others. It’s a very real problem (and an ongoing battle within the City as well as the Bay Area as a whole). For that matter, it’s a nation-wide problem - so to quibble over what streets they are more commonly seen is missing the point in a big way.

The real issue is not debating the desirability of SF (recently ranked #1 in this category) or its beauty, weather, career opportunity, etc.(because it’s fact-grins) or what streets/areas you are more likely to witness homelessness. The real issue is finding solutions to get chronic homelessness (and its associated issues) under control in our City (and the rest of the country too).

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

Eh - you are splitting hairs to account for any homeless seen (or not seen) on any street on any day in any particular area, despite some areas being ‘worse’ than others. It’s a very real problem (and an ongoing battle within the City as well as the Bay Area as a whole). For that matter, it’s a nation-wide problem - so to quibble over what streets they are more commonly seen is missing the point in a big way.

The real issue is not debating the desirability of SF (recently ranked #1 in this category) or its beauty, weather, career opportunity, etc.(because it’s fact-grins) or what streets/areas you are more likely to witness homelessness. The real issue is finding solutions to get chronic homelessness (and its associated issues) under control in our City (and the rest of the country too).

He's not splitting hairs, he's telling you what anyone who spends time in San Francisco or lives there already knows. It would be wonderful to find solutions to chronic homelessness, do you have any ideas?

[skygazer1]

Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy

Eh - you are splitting hairs to account for any homeless seen (or not seen) on any street on any day in any particular area, despite some areas being ‘worse’ than others. It’s a very real problem (and an ongoing battle within the City as well as the Bay Area as a whole). For that matter, it’s a nation-wide problem - so to quibble over what streets they are more commonly seen is missing the point in a big way.

The real issue is not debating the desirability of SF (recently ranked #1 in this category) or its beauty, weather, career opportunity, etc.(because it’s fact-grins) or what streets/areas you are more likely to witness homelessness. The real issue is finding solutions to get chronic homelessness (and its associated issues) under control in our City (and the rest of the country too).

Mostly disagree with this. The homelessness IS concentrated in special areas, 1000x more so than in the typical residential streets of the 95% of the City. Its probably due to historical reasons, the areas around Tenderloin, Civic Ctr, Mission have been magnets for criminals, vagrants and nutcases for generations. So, the encampments follow, and grow out of control. Become a living, self-perpetuating monster. But, they are very limited in area. Because they need the "homeless infrastructure" to survive and proliferate. Access to trash for tent building, to tourists and day workers for panhandling, etc. Any homeless trying to setup camp outside a home in Sunset or Richmond, will find a lonely place, and have the cops called and given the "boot" el pronto.

So, in a way, it is much better to keep the homeless problem isolated to compact areas. Normal people can stay away and not be involved. It makes it easier for the service organizations to cater to them, and for law enforcement to keep an eye on them.

The general problem of homelessness is beyond the scope of a "San Francisco" topic! It needs to be in another category altogether.