Oakland and 15'th Oakland Ca.

[ronydon]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

15th and Harrison is not bad at all imo. I used to own an apartment building near there and dont recall any complaints from tenants about the neighborhood. Its actually pretty quiet for a downtown setting to be honest.

I appreciate the help, i am going to look into it

[sonarrat]

Is that Chinatown? If it isn't, it's at least very close to it.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

18 montclair- please look at the sfgate oakland homicide maphttp://www.sfgate.com/maps/oaklandhomicides/jls and old oakland appear much safer

Actually I like the aestethic of 15th and Harrison much more than the Jack London Square area which despite all the changes still has a very industrial feel to it-not to mention being separated from the rest of downtown due to 880.

All in all, 15th and Harrison is really not bad at all. In fact I think its a bit quiet as artemis pointed out.

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Actually I like the aestethic of 15th and Harrison much more than the Jack London Square area which despite all the changes still has a very industrial feel to it-not to mention being separated from the rest of downtown due to 880.

All in all, 15th and Harrison is really not bad at all. In fact I think its a bit quiet as artemis pointed out.

i agree aestheticlly i would rate old oaktown and 15th and harris(essex area) as tie .old oakland has some really restored urban streets while the essex area has lake merrit.my comments were based on the homicide map and and at that time i was not aware 1 of the homicides was a reporter assisinated by an organization he was investigating and the other appeares to be a crime of passion stabbing.

[jzt83]

If it's a MA properties apt, STAY AWAY! The hood is just okay, but it isn't that walkable. There's a decent natural food store nearby, but it's not well-stocked and is pricey. Whole Foods is about 3/4 of a mile a way and lugging groceries at that distance sucks.

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by jzt83

If it's a MA properties apt, STAY AWAY! The hood is just okay, but it isn't that walkable. There's a decent natural food store nearby, but it's not well-stocked and is pricey. Whole Foods is about 3/4 of a mile a way and lugging groceries at that distance sucks.

i often hear comments about the poor availabilty of food stores for this area, the jack london area and old oakland. i don't understand this.these areas are a few blocks from chinatown were produce, fish and other stables are readily available.it is not as pleasant as a suburban safeway and you have to be selective but the prices are reasonable.

[sonarrat]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

i often hear comments about the poor availabilty of food stores for this area, the jack london area and old oakland. i don't understand this.these areas are a few blocks from chinatown were produce, fish and other stables are readily available.it is not as pleasant as a suburban safeway and you have to be selective but the prices are reasonable.

Especially ironic as jzt is part Chinese..