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Old 02-06-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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I am also from the midwest and am coming down at the end of the month to check out Sarasota a little more for a possible relocation. We are also going over to the N. east coast around the Jacksonville or St. Augustine as I am not sure I can deal with straight heat 12 months out of the year. In all my searching I think I would love the weather in Jacksonville more but the beaches in the gulf more.
I'm not sure I want to switch from 6 months of running my heater too 10 months of running my air conditioning. Good luck with your search.

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I have lived in MN for my entire life, although have traveled many places I am really wanting to relocate some where with beaches, milder winters, low-medium crime. I going to be 40 in March and just can't see growing old here, winters are just too long and extreme. I'd rather relocate now and get settled while I am still kinda young..Any suggestions?
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:28 AM
 
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Like anywhere, there are many pros and cons to living in Sarasota. Having lived there for 11 years and seeing many changes take place during that time, I would like to offer my opinion on the area in order to paint a more accurate picture for those who might be interested in moving or visiting there. I have lived and visited many areas throughout the country and feel like I can offer an un-biased view point. The following are just a few things to consider. I will leave out anything regarding jobs (which there is a serious lack of) and housing, because many other people have already touched on these issues throughout the forum.

Some of the positive things: 1. Great beaches. The sand at Siesta Key beach is like baby powder, and Siesta always ranks as a top beach in Florida and the nation. There are also some lesser known beaches such as Turtle on Siesta and others in the Venice areas, but many do not have the sand that Siesta does.

2. Wearing shorts and t-shirts pretty much year round. Of course you get one or two "cold" snaps, but after living in Minnesota I realized that 30 degrees at night is really nothing. I don't know why people freak out because they have to deal with the slightest bit of chillyness in January when many other areas of the country are well below zero.

3. Most of Sarasota is very clean. This includes the downtown area as well. I never see a lot of trash or general dirtiness throughout the town. I am sure that having mostly newer houses and buildings helps with this but I think that the city does a good job maintaining things.

4. Some really neat areas. Again, the downtown is nice and artsy with good restaurants, marina jack to catch a sunset, st. armands right over the bridge etc. Also, Siesta Key is probably my favorite area of town. The village has all sorts of restaurants and shops and many of the side streets there give you a very tropical/old florida feel.

5. There always seemed to be things going on, from Siesta Fiesta to A Taste of Sarasota, to wine tasting events, to theater events downtown etc. If you are really looking for something to do, Sarasota is big enough that you can probably find a decent event to attend.


Some of the negatives: 1. Remember those great beaches? Well they can be quite hard to enjoy when you are sharing them with literally thousands and thousands of other people on any given day. During tourist season the Siesta beach public parking is a zoo and you have to walk far away down the beach to get to anywhere even remotely quiet.

2. Having warm and sunny weather year-round, and green palm trees is great...until you experience the same thing year after year after year. Believe me, the monotonous weather can get old after a while. It was actually a relief the see the gorgeous colors of fall again and watch as big fluffy snowflakes gently float down to the the earth the signal the start of winter. Sure, in the north we have to deal with cold weather and shoveling driveways while Florida is enjoying 70 degree dry and sunny days, but while you guys are literally drenched in sweat and being oppressed by the deadly hot temperatures and jungle humidity of summer, the rest of the country is enjoying the most perfect summer weather (which feels even better after making it through the winter). Take your pick: Hop from heater to heater in the winter elsewhere (where you can at least put on a jacket and go outside), or hop from AC to AC in the summer in florida (where you will stick to the leather seats in your car and not be able to buckle your seatbelt because it is literally too hot to touch). At least if you are cold you can add another layer. When you are in Florida in the summer you will wish you could peel your own skin off. And it isn't just the 3 months of summer that can be opressively hot. My family told me they had the air conditioning on for Christmas eve, which is ridiculous in my opinion. There's a reason why the wealthy come down for the winter and flee for the summer.

3. While there are a few really neat areas like downtown and Siesta Key, for the most part the rest of Sarasota (and Florida for that matter) is one gross suburb. Most of the main streets are literally strip-mall after strip-mall, with characterless housing developments (where every house looks the same and are so close together that you can see what your neighbor is cooking for breakfast) being interspersed. The amount of development is not only un-necessary, but disgusting. I go back there every year to visit family and it seems to just get more and more developed. EVERY free space of land is cleared for some un-needed building. How many walgreens and eckards (which are always RIGHT across the street from each other) do we need? The area is starting to see the reprocussions of all of this needless construction as many business and former-restaurant buildings sit empty because of the economy.

4. I really like to hike and get out into a real natural setting as much as possible, but the only decent sized true park in that area is Myakka State Park, which is roughly a 30-40 minute drive from the western parts of town, and like the beaches, can be flooded with people during the season. Sure there are other places like Oscar Scherer and small city parks, but they are absolutely tiny in comparisson to the gorgeous parks Sarasota could have all over town if they hadn't felt it necessary to build a gas station and furniture store on every corner. It truly pains me to see an area that could be gorgeous and pristine (while still having plenty of options for housing, restaurants and shopping), turned into a gross sprawling mess. I only lived there for just over a decade and saw unbelievable changes take place, I can't imagine how depressing it must be for people who have lived there for 40 or 50 years to see their beautiful area overun with development.

5. All of the usual negatives that one hears about Florida are for the most part true and can be applied to Sarasota as well. This includes but is not limited to: High crime that is interspersed throughout the entire town, where it is not clear which areas should be avoided (with the exception of newtown), not pedestrian friendly due to some seriously bad drivers (this is no joke and doesn't just apply to old people, move to many other areas of the country and see the difference for yourself), a lot of rude, fake, and plasticky people, and some truly weird people doing weird things (Put it this way: if I was forced to hitchhike, I would rather do it in baghdad than any part of Florida). Anytime you hear about some sick news story like people throwing their own kids off of balconies, it always seems to take place in Florida.


Overall feelings: Even after living in Minnesota (among other places), which is the last place many of you would ever want to live, I can say that I would never move back to Sarasota or any other part of Florida for the long-term. I love coming down there to visit in the winter, and I could see myself living there for short periods of time (1 or 2 months out of the year), but for me I just got sick of Florida after living there cotinuously for so many years. I have realized that there are plenty of other places in the U.S. where I feel safer, the people are friendlier, and the towns have true character. If I ever did have to move down to Sarasota, the only place I would be interested in would be a nice quiet side street on Siesta Key. Ideally I would live there for the winter and elsewhere for the summer.
I'm obviously in the minority here. After living on the west coast for years and dealing with extreme heat and constant sunny days, I understand and agree with the boringness of sunshine 24/7. Hopefully I'll be able to travel back and forth from north to south as I age.

I love the suburban feel of areas. I love all the "stuff." I'm not a city person nor am I a rural girl. I am a suburban girl through and through.

I'm pleased to hear that even though there are many older areas in Sarasota, most areas are clean. Litter is something I cannot live with. I love old - as long as it's CLEAN!
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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Yes statistics are not perfect, but they can be used to give you a general sense of crime in the area. So when you see a table showing that Sarasota has over double the crime than the national average, it's a staggering realization regardless of the fact that these reports aren't perfect and that there are probably minor flaws in all crime statistics. The people that put out these statistics for crime in Sarasota could have literally made half of the crimes up, yet Sarasota would still be above the national average.

Big house, your exposure rate has nothing to do with population Obviously your exposure rate is going to be higher in Sarasota where there are 42.5 rapes per 100,000 people than in NYC where there are 10.7 rapes per 100,000 people. It has nothing to do with the overall size of the population. It wouldn't make any sense to say "well you actually have a higher chance of getting raped in NYC because there are more people that you come into contact with and rape is random, even though Sarasota has FOUR times the amount of rape in proportion to the population"
But do most of these take place in the typical "bad" areas of town that most people don't venture into? Coral Gables has low crime yet right beside it are areas that one knows enough not to go into at night unless you are looking for trouble.
Most places have their high crime areas. I doubt that Sarasota has rampant crime in every corner, I'll bet there are just a few areas in which they occur?
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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There are plenty of cities where one doesn't hear Spanglish spoken all the time, every day--just not anywhere south of Orlando, east or west.

Alleluia!!
Go to Pittsburgh - lilly white.
I wouldn't want to live there, but different strokes for different folks.
Oh and tell the good ole boys I said ' See ya later! '
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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But do most of these take place in the typical "bad" areas of town that most people don't venture into? Coral Gables has low crime yet right beside it are areas that one knows enough not to go into at night unless you are looking for trouble.
Most places have their high crime areas. I doubt that Sarasota has rampant crime in every corner, I'll bet there are just a few areas in which they occur?
Yes, the majority of crime in Sarasota happens in a little "core" - the poor neighborhoods just north of downtown and east of the trail. Most of Sarasota is beautiful and safe.
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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Yes, the majority of crime in Sarasota happens in a little "core" - the poor neighborhoods just north of downtown and east of the trail. Most of Sarasota is beautiful and safe.
That's what I've heard and I would imagine to be true.

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Old 05-30-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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quote (Put it this way: if I was forced to hitchhike, I would rather do it in baghdad than any part of Florida).

That's where I stopped reading or caring about this post...What a disgrace to anyone serving our country in Baghdad...or anywhere overseas. Why don't you go over there and try it?
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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For the reasons so well recited above we plan as soon as we can to leave Sarasota and move to St Augustine.
I'm curious, what does St. Augustine have that Sarasota does not?
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:02 PM
 
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I'm curious, what does St. Augustine have that Sarasota does not?
IMO, NOTHING! St. Augustine is a cute but very small, very touristy town. Sarasota has it all over St. Augustine as far as amenities, art, culture, restaurants, etc. Don't get me wrong, I like St. Augustine. But it's really a place to visit rather than live. As I said, JMO.
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Punta Gorda and Maryland
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IMO, NOTHING! St. Augustine is a cute but very small, very touristy town. Sarasota has it all over St. Augustine as far as amenities, art, culture, restaurants, etc. Don't get me wrong, I like St. Augustine. But it's really a place to visit rather than live. As I said, JMO.
I think I agree, and if you want that really beachy small town vibe, you should check out Anna Marie Island when you're around! I loved that place!! And, can't wait to hang out there with you and my Ladywithafan friend! I think you guys will fit nicely under each arm!
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