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Can a mod at least correct the title so it is spelt correctly? "Rumer?" How about "rumor."
Sacramento has no other major teams, and what we are led to believe is that if they lose it, it would be a real downer. The mayor is working real had to keep the Kings in Sac, but the "Madoofs," seem to be oblivious to is all. They just need money, and need to sell the team. Sac's mayor says he has local investors willing to help keep the team there.
01-17-2013, 06:31 PM
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Since y'all lost a team see this piece from a Sacramento writer.
Ailene Voisin: The Maloof brothers can be the good guys again
By AILENE VOISIN
The Sacramento Bee
Published: Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2013 - 12:00 am
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - There is a gracious exit strategy here, a way for the Maloofs to pay off their debts, walk away with their heads held high and move toward their next venture infused by positive karma and a powerful sense of accomplishment.
They can secure a legacy.
They can ensure a new beginning.
They can be the good guys again.
Sell the Kings to a local group intent on keeping the franchise in Sacramento and the bad blood and strained relations are stashed at the bottom of the NBA footnotes, overtaken by the win-win outcome for both parties.
That's it, that's all.
This decades-long arena dance doesn't have to end with a fatal misstep, a small market and an amazingly loyal fan base burned by a group (Chris Hansen/Steve Ballmer) and a region (Seattle) already flush with professional sports.
Sacramento has the Kings, and only the Kings. There is no NFL team to embrace, no Major League Baseball club to adopt, no big-time college sports programs to rally the community and establish a rivalry the likes of, say, Stanford and Cal. Or University of Washington.
Take away the Kings?
Take away the one team in town?
The Maloofs don't want to do this. They really don't want to do this.
"I've always liked Joe and Gavin," said Dave Weiglein, the longtime local sports talk show host, "but if they ever had any real love and affection for this community, then they'll take the local bid and allow the city to move on to the next level."
The Kings-to-Seattle situation remains as fluid and unpredictable as the Maloofs. Four weeks ago, Joe and Gavin were obsessed with the team's slumping record. In more recent days, Seattle and Sacramento keep exchanging the lead in their tussle over the franchise, an apparent rout (early reports claiming the Maloofs already had backed up the truck) evolving into a legitimate game of dollars and cents, of egos and wills and, yes, of reputation.
David Stern didn't invest a huge chunk of his time and energy trying to resolve the arena conundrum only to watch the Kings whisked off to Seattle without being given an opportunity to fight back. Fair is fair.
Back in the day, so were the Maloofs. When they cried foul after Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals, they were backed by thousands of fans screaming for answers and demanding a replay. They were right. They were screwed. They had a community that appreciated their presence and applauded their feisty, furious retorts to Phil Jackson.
For a large part of their ownership, when the cash was flowing, the Las Vegas casino was jumping and the Kings were winning on and off the court � the list of wannabe season-ticket holders inched toward 3,000 a decade ago, remember? � Joe and Gavin took names, signed autographs, made appearances, spent money.
They rescued the team from former owner Jim Thomas, the Los Angeles-based developer who needed that $77 million loan from the city just to stay in business, just to keep the team in Sacramento. With Geoff Petrie initiating one brilliant transaction after another, and the owners freely signing the checks for Vlade Divac, Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Bobby Jackson, among others, the Kings became international celebrities, Sacramento became a destination city, and the team came within a few questionable calls of a trip to the NBA Finals.
Nineteen seasons of sellouts in 27 years. Eight consecutive trips to the playoffs. Cowbells and purple madness and passion that endured even in the worst and most uncertain of times, amid repeated displays of bad business decisions, bad basketball decisions, bad breaks (Webber and that knee), bad rumors.
Sports is cyclical, and, often, so is ownership. Suddenly the Buss family can't win with the Lakers. Suddenly Clippers owner Donald Sterling � easily the worst owner in professional sports for decades � can't lose. James Dolan can't buy a championship with the Knicks. Frank McCourt couldn't save his marriage and almost destroyed the Dodgers.
The Maloofs? They lost their way.
What hurts most is this: When they could have addressed the community, detailed their troubled financial situation and sought assistance from local investors, they again threatened relocation and, in a late, breaking change of direction, became receptive to selling the franchise.
To wounding a Sacramento economy. To crippling a community image. To devastating youngsters who remember the good times and still can't get enough of DeMarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Isaiah Thomas and Jimmer Fredette.
Unfortunate developments happen. We get that. Economies collapse, the housing bubble bursts, the job market tightens. But the Maloofs have a choice, and they still have a chance.
As Mayor Kevin Johnson noted Tuesday, amid reports about potential ownership groups and of AEG's renewed interest in any arena project, the Maloofs "can participate in some way."
Or they can sell outright to local investors and cement the Kings' future in Sacramento, the city they once embraced and where they still own homes.
They can fix this.
They can be the good guys again.
Read more here:
Ailene Voisin: The Maloof brothers can be the good guys again - Wire Lifestyle - The Sacramento Bee
01-17-2013, 06:35 PM
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January 17, 2013
NBA Commissioner Stern: Still no Seattle-Kings deal
There's still no deal in Seattle to move the Sacramento Kings to the Pacific Northwest, NBA Commissioner David Stern told reporters this morning.
Speaking in London, where the New York Knicks will play the Detroit Pistons today, Stern said "there's been lots of speculation" regarding the possible sale of the Kings to hedge-fund manager Chris Hansen in Seattle.
"The one thing we do know is no purchase and sale agreement has been submitted to (the league)," Stern said.
Stern added: "We are more or less in a series of communications. But right now, we don't know anything in terms of actionable items."
Stern said he welcomed Mayor Kevin Johnson's request to address the league's Board of Governors in the face of a possible Seattle deal, saying "Sacramento has been particularly supportive" of the NBA.
Johnson is assembling a counter-offer to Hansen and plans to deliver that pitch to the league. That pitch will likely include a deep-pocketed owner committed to keeping the team in Sacramento and helping to build a new downtown arena.
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City Beat: NBA Commissioner Stern: Still no Seattle-Kings deal
01-17-2013, 09:42 PM
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Can a mod at least correct the title so it is spelt correctly? "Rumer?" How about "rumor."
Sacramento has no other major teams, and what we are led to believe is that if they lose it, it would be a real downer. The mayor is working real had to keep the Kings in Sac, but the "Madoofs," seem to be oblivious to is all. They just need money, and need to sell the team. Sac's mayor says he has local investors willing to help keep the team there.
I concur! Once again my apologies for that all, very annoying!
01-17-2013, 10:12 PM
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I think this call comes down to the best offer. However, I don't believe the Maloofs care about keeping the Kings in Sacramento. This will all play out before March 1st. While Sacramento may be able to offer a nice amount, the arena situation is less clear. This is where Seattle may have an advantage, as their new arena has already been approved.
01-17-2013, 11:59 PM
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SEATTLE -- A new lawsuit could be another big hurdle to stop the Sonics from returning to Seattle.
"We're alleging that the basketball arena deal is really "bailout ball," said attorney Cleveland Stockmeyer.
Stockmeyer filed the lawsuit on Friday, alleging the city of Seattle's $200 million loan to Chris Hansen does not comply with I-91, a measure to protect taxpayers on land deals.
Stockmeyer's suit says the city has no true guarantee to see a return on the investment.
"This is a bailout in advance," he said. "It's an ongoing subsidy and it's a lack of fair value."
Stockmeyer hopes to depose Hansen during discovery.
The City Attorney's office is not commenting about pending litigation, but did say they are settling a separate lawsuit with the Longshore union. That suit centered around the ongoing Environmental Impact Study.
Hansen's representatives did not respond for comment.
The suit comes at a vulnerable time for Hansen and the Sonics. Councilmembers Bruce Harrell and Tim Burgess confirmed Tuesday that city staff has been briefed on Hansen's deal to buy the Sacramento Kings.
That city's mayor, Kevin Johnson, was granted the opportunity to cobble together investors to buy the ailing team and keep them in California's capital. It's unclear how that hearing may affect Hansen's deal. So far no specifics have been announced.
KOMO NEWS
01-21-2013, 09:53 PM
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Yes, 99% is a good number. There is still an outside chance that Sacramento could come up with a higher offer included with a secure new arena plan. However, they would have to act fast, real fast, then they would have to prove that Sacramento has a better long-term outcome than Seattle would. That won't be easy. But let's not count our chickens before they are hatched.
One interesting connection I found today: Bill Russell, (also in the news for being misidentified at the inauguration today as Morgan Freeman), coached Seattle in the 70's, and Sacramento in the 80's, for just one year). He is probably one of the few connections between the Kings and the old Sonics. As far as I know, Russell still lives on Mercer Island, just outside of Seattle. Also former Washington Husky Isiah Thomas, currently with the Kings could be returning to his high school and college home.
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People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)