Honestly, are people in Seattle snobby? (crime rate, theatre, living)

[RVD90277]

hmm...i haven't seen much political diversity except for the ultra liberals around here. i typically don't talk about politics that much because i find that most people disagree with me even though nationally i do tend to have some common ground with libertarians and republicans.

most of these hard core liberals don't take political issues as political issues. instead they see these issues as a higher calling...racism, sexism, etc.

for example, if i say that i am against abortion, they immediately say that i'm sexist because i'm against a woman's right to choose.

if i say that i'm against gay marriage, they immediately say that i'm racist because not allowing 2 gay guys to get married is "the same thing" as not letting an african american marry and white american.

if i say that i'm against a $15 minimum wage in seattle, they say that i'm classist because i (like almost everyone in america) make more than $15/hr.

[TrueTimbers]

Oh.. Like it is not exactly the same or worse for a liberal person in a Conservative town??

Come on its the same at best and in my opinion worse. Liberals making issues their cause??? Ha.. Consevitives have recruited GOD for that job...
So give me a break ... Lol
Don't have this thread be another, senseless Conservative whining thread.
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Sure there is that I am so green my poop don't stink faction.. I do find that kind of snobby city slickers thinking they are so green, with their Prius annoying because they are not seeing the bigger picture.

Fact is the poor guy heating his cabin with wood, and turning the key on that old 70's pickup truck, once a week at best, is vastly more green than the fancy coffee drinking yuppy consumer.

Carbon footprint is more about consumption than anything else.

Yep, the greenest most earth friendly guy in Seattle, is the homeless bum sleeping in the street.

[Garfunkle524]

Seattle is snobby, Bellevue is snobbier. I once mentioned that I went to public school and they all started laughing at me, then awkwardly paused, then one person looked at me and said "you turned out ok, I guess you were one of the lucky ones."

I asked one person who lives in a ludicrously rich neighborhood in Bellevue when they were going to put up their Christmas lights and they said they had an appointment for their landscaping team to come do it next week.

I listened for about 20 minutes as one of them went on a tirade about just how scared they were to shop at Walmart. Mind you, it was a Walmart in a very nice area. Not exactly ThePeopleofWalmart.com material.

Their kids complained relentlessly that their parents were only covering their entire college tuition bill, rent, food, and a USED car!!!! Meanwhile my student loans are scheduled to be paid off in 2030...

The people of Bellevue... ugh...

[seattlerain]

Originally Posted by RVD90277

hmm...i haven't seen much political diversity except for the ultra liberals around here. i typically don't talk about politics that much because i find that most people disagree with me even though nationally i do tend to have some common ground with libertarians and republicans.

most of these hard core liberals don't take political issues as political issues. instead they see these issues as a higher calling...racism, sexism, etc.

for example, if i say that i am against abortion, they immediately say that i'm sexist because i'm against a woman's right to choose.

if i say that i'm against gay marriage, they immediately say that i'm racist because not allowing 2 gay guys to get married is "the same thing" as not letting an african american marry and white american.

if i say that i'm against a $15 minimum wage in seattle, they say that i'm classist because i (like almost everyone in america) make more than $15/hr.

Thankfully we live in a state where gay marriage is legal.

[RVD90277]

the walmart in factoria is kind of scary if you ask me...i've only been there a few times but have always encountered some strange folks in there.

i actually grew up with a lot of people that expected a lot from their parents since i went to private school for high school. it was pretty bad. most would not even consider applying for public universities because they couldn't see themselves going to public school even for college. most did not apply for financial aid at private universities because they felt that it was beneath them to beg for money. i went to public university and was the first person from my high school to go that school. a handful of us in the graduating class went to public universities. when i asked our college counselor was a "pell grant" was, he laughed and said "nobody in this school qualifies for a pell grant...that's for different people." afaik, most bellevue folks send their kids to public school anyway.

conservatives in general are simply satisfied in knowing that we're smarter than liberals. it's like when you meet any kind of ignorant person...you can try to teach them but they likely don't have the mental capacity to understand so it's not worth the effort. this is why we actually rarely argue with liberals. if i'm a conservative and believe in God and go to church and a liberal says that he/she is atheist because they only believe in what they can see and touch, we may feel bad for them because according to our beliefs, they are likely not saved but in this day and age we don't usually try to convert them.

RVD.

[Bimmerfanboy]

Originally Posted by BATCAT

Have you ever considered that it might be because the already socially and politically progressive climate means they don't feel the need to?

I don't think this is the case. Canada in general seems to be a more peaceful country that is less divided by its media and politicians. I've been to many parts of Canada and have crossed the border at least 40 times in my lifetime. The Canadian media and politicians (and their culture in general) is less inflammatory and more level-headed.

[Bimmerfanboy]

Originally Posted by spotown11

Seattle seems to have gone off the deep end in recent years. The activism is much more widespread and extreme than it was maybe a decade ago. Disruptive protests seem to be a monthly occurrence here (May Day, Ferguson, wages etc.). Heck, they even elected a city council woman who got arrested for protesting.

I would also describe myself as a "Washington Republican" living in suburban Seattle.
I know several people within the city who frequently pass off liberal views as fact and dismiss Eastern Washingtonians as "hicks" or "rednecks", or as just irrelevant. Most of them have never been to places they disparage and have the attitude that none of the other cities in the Northwest are worth visiting, save maybe Portland. Ironically, it seems that those who believe they are the most worldly often have never lived and barely traveled outside their little bubble of progressive, primarily Caucasian North Seattle.

I definitely concur with this. I always viewed Seattle as a liberal yet very pro-business city. Libertarian is the word for it. However, in recent years it really feels like this place has become ultra-left wing to the point where many people and elected officials are borderline socialist.

I agree with your second paragraph as well. I see a lot of folks who have lived in their Seattle-area bubble their entire lives and because of it, feel like they are morally and intellectually-superior in some way. Liberal viewpoints are common here and the city has been pretty successful, so people think that since X and Y policies work in Seattle they should work anywhere, and if you disagree then you're just closed-minded and racist/against the poor and elderly. I have traveled all over the country and even used to live in cities like Chicago, Detroit, and some places on the East Coast. To put it straight, those cities face a lot of challenges that Seattle does not; the most notable being racial tensions, deindustrialization, etc. Seattle's economy evolved in a way where it did not have to encounter such conflicts and challenges, and as a result many of the policies and viewpoints that are effective here have not been effective elsewhere. Yet the typical holier-than-though Capitol Hill snob will act like he/she knows everything about race and everything about economics when in reality they've only experienced life in a mostly-white person and white-collar bubble their entire lives.

[Bimmerfanboy]

Originally Posted by BellevueNative

I agree with this. I never noticed how judgmental and CLOSED-minded many Seattleites were until I met my husband, who is a moderate Republican and feels like he can't even discuss politics with many of our friends. But that is mostly just in the city itself; go outside of Seattle to the suburbs and you will get a broader array of opinions/views. As liberal as I am, I won't live in the City of Seattle because I don't feel its political climate is healthy; it lacks the checks and balances that I think keep the place healthy.

I concur. I am a Washington Republican-type who is pretty moderate on social issues and slightly conservative on other topics. I agree with many liberal viewpoints and think that a balance needs to exist in order to have a productive society. Unfortunately the leftists in Seattle have become so intolerant of alternative viewpoints that they've created a groupthink-like culture where ideology rules and common-sense and compromise go out the door.

[TrueTimbers]

Originally Posted by RVD90277

conservatives in general are simply satisfied in knowing that we're smarter than liberals. it's like when you meet any kind of ignorant person...you can try to teach them but they likely don't have the mental capacity to understand so it's not worth the effort. this is why we actually rarely argue with liberals. if i'm a conservative and believe in God and go to church and a liberal says that he/she is atheist because they only believe in what they can see and touch, we may feel bad for them because according to our beliefs, they are likely not saved but in this day and age we don't usually try to convert them.

RVD.

My gosh is that.scary!!

Wow we are doomed our society will not even last as long as Rome with this brilliance.

[kanhawk]

Originally Posted by Garfunkle524

Seattle is snobby, Bellevue is snobbier. I once mentioned that I went to public school and they all started laughing at me, then awkwardly paused, then one person looked at me and said "you turned out ok, I guess you were one of the lucky ones."

I asked one person who lives in a ludicrously rich neighborhood in Bellevue when they were going to put up their Christmas lights and they said they had an appointment for their landscaping team to come do it next week.

I listened for about 20 minutes as one of them went on a tirade about just how scared they were to shop at Walmart. Mind you, it was a Walmart in a very nice area. Not exactly ThePeopleofWalmart.com material.

Their kids complained relentlessly that their parents were only covering their entire college tuition bill, rent, food, and a USED car!!!! Meanwhile my student loans are scheduled to be paid off in 2030...

The people of Bellevue... ugh...

Wow, life's rough with all those first world problems.