07-11-2015, 11:14 AM
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Look in the Broadview area of NW Seattle, close to Carkeek Park. It is somewhat of a secret, really not that far to commute in to town. If you decide to buy, you will get more for your money there, very treed and Puget Sound nearby. There is also a mellow social element (if you want it) of fellow hikers/woods lovers in Carkeek Park. Thoreau would have loved it there. "
"You must live in the present, launch yourself on every wave, find your eternity in each moment". Henry David Thoreau
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07-11-2015, 11:35 AM
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Here is the thing though, on Thursday I took the kids to the beach at Golden Gardens and it took 1 hr 27 mins to drive the 10 miles back to our home in the Central District at 4pm. I tried to beat rush hour but failed. The same evening it took my friend 45 minutes to travel the 4.5 miles from lower Queen Anne to Cactus at Madison Park for dinner - on a scooter. Traffic is a beast here. Personally I advise anyone to live and work on the same side of I-5 at least, never mind trying to avoid crossing a bridge.
07-11-2015, 01:58 PM
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In any event, if you were somewhat like Thoreau, where would you live?
Not in Seattle, that's for sure.
I lived on the Oregon Coast for 4 years in Cape Perpetua by myself. Now, that is Thoreau living for you. Thoreau (the Poet) would go stir-crazy in the overcrowded cement jungle of Seattle.
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Right now I'm thinking either northern West Seattle or eastern Columbia City or possibly Ballard or Magnolia (but I understand it's a pain getting anywhere from those areas),
Mr. Thoreau (OP), you should probably consider living in a place in the Snoqualmie Valley if you want true tranquility, but still be able to commute to your corporate, big-city job. Also, you better have serious cash to blow if you want to live in a Seattle neighborhood these days.
Being a Thoreau kind of guy, myself, I just couldn't live in those neighborhoods, unless, I had a lot of cash that would allow me to get a big house away from all the chaos.
Issaquah is nice, but has become a tacky, yuppie/soccer-mom suburbia.
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Hope and the future for me are not in lawns and cultivated fields, not in towns and cities, but in the impervious and quaking swamps.
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To meet someone, you'll want to spend time walking around Green Lake meeting people. I lived a 1/2 block away from the lake. Its the only singles place I know in WA that isn't a bar.
Good luck meeting people just walking around Green Lake. This is Seattle and most people I would smile and say hello to (men/women) , would usually return the gesture with a blank stare and turning away their face. Seattle is not the kind of place where you can attempt to just meet people in public. The only real "SINGLES SCENE" in Seattle would be Downtown/Belltown/Capitol Hill/Lower Queen Anne. THe rest of the city is pretty typical for Washington and very cliquey, closed and insular. As well, the numerous amounts of college students, somewhat turns other neighborhoods into a college town atmosphere. Except most of these are UW students and they are not fun or cool to hang out with at all. They tend to also be pretty insular and stick to their own kind.
I do like the Greenwood neighborhood, but it has a somewhat suburban feel to it. People seem a bit friendlier and more old-fashioned (in Seattle sense). Not quite as uppity as some other neighborhoods. I would not say it's a spectacular place for singles, but where is around here? Men tend to outnumber women anywhere you go here.
Belltown/Downtown/Capitol Hill and parts of Queen Anne are Seattle's only real cosmopolitan neighborhoods and has a migratory population. A lot of people live in these neighborhoods come from other places for Seattle's job market and actually want to meet new people. Although the people in these neighborhoods tend to be a bit more transient and usually do not become long term residents.
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07-11-2015, 04:58 PM
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Renting and buying are two different realities. You might be able to afford to rent in Seattle's core urban neighborhoods, if willing to be flexible, but might not be able to afford to buy. Sometimes, renting makes more economic sense, especially if single.
If working near Volunteer Park, you should realize that commuting from Broadview, Ballard, Magnolia, and West Seattle will be a bear, due to distance and bad cross-town traffic.
If you live on Capitol Hill, you should be able to walk or bike to work. Ditching your car will save you upwards of $500-700/mo (in loan payments, insurance, fuel/oil, maintenance, repairs, and parking, which alone can cost you $100-200/mo). When I lived on Capitol Hill, I seldom had to leave, because everything was there.
Capitol Hill is a "hill" and a relatively steep one, so bike-commuting from surrounding areas could be tough, at least one way.
07-12-2015, 11:05 AM
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Well, it seems like traffic is even worse than I realized. I understood it was bad, but if sticking to the east side of I-5 and not crossing bridges is best, that does limit the options. I guess it's probably best to live somewhere near Capitol Hill at least to start. I'll probably keep my car because it's older and paid for, and I do like the ability to get out of town easily.
And while I agree with the idea that HD Thoreau would steer far clear of Seattle and other sizable city (he realized he was born "in the nick of time" and thought Concord the best place in the world), that just isn't an option yet. Hopefully in the future.
07-12-2015, 11:19 AM
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I wonder if you could drop a tiny house onto something like this, a la Thoreau's cabin at Walden?
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/20.../home/77493033
Leschi is often overlooked, surprisingly secluded and quiet for being so central. It borders Leschi and Frink, two old-growth forested Olmsted parks no one has ever heard of.
07-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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Broadview/Carkeek Park is Walden Pond, Greenwood and Phinney Ridge Concord, okay that's stretching it but it could work
. I concur that the solitude and open spaces near North Bend would have made Henry David happy, but they are so far removed from the things that are special about the city, or in this case, the "village" of Seattle.
07-12-2015, 01:08 PM
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Actually, his cabin at Walden Pond was not much more than a mile outside of Concord. While living the "simple life", he didn't do his own laundry, but took it home to be done or to pick it up almost on a daily basis. He had frequent visitors. Isolated or a hermit, he wasn't.
So, being close to one of Seattle's "woodsy" parks, not too far from Volunteer Park, could be an equivalent: Interlaken Park (19th Ave E), the Aboretum (Madison Valley), and Seward Park (Leschi), the latter two on Lake Washington. Magnuson Park (Sand Point) is not particularly woodsy, but is adjacent to the Burke-Gilman Bike Trail and on the Lake.
If Seattle is Concord, then you might want to live somewhat near the Issaquah Alps (Cougar, Tiger, and Squak Mountains) for easy access to "wildlands": Factoria, Newcastle, Eastgate, or Issaquah (from nearest to farthest from Seattle). It'll probably be a car commute, since there is no direct bus ride to Capitol Hill. The commute won't be easy (especially from Issaquah, although you'll be that closer to nature), but perhaps not all that much more tiresome than Thoreau's daily laundry run.
Other parks on the Eastside that can give a respite from urban life: Mercer Slough, Bridal Trails, and Marymount.
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07-12-2015, 01:54 PM
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Well, it seems like traffic is even worse than I realized. I understood it was bad, but if sticking to the east side of I-5 and not crossing bridges is best, that does limit the options. I guess it's probably best to live somewhere near Capitol Hill at least to start. I'll probably keep my car because it's older and paid for, and I do like the ability to get out of town easily.
And while I agree with the idea that HD Thoreau would steer far clear of Seattle and other sizable city (he realized he was born "in the nick of time" and thought Concord the best place in the world), that just isn't an option yet. Hopefully in the future.
Commute times can vary significantly with the time of day. If your work schedule is flexible, then living further away is an option. I'd still nix Broadview, Magnolia, and West Seattle, but Ballard, Phinney Ridge, Green Lake, Fremont, Wallingford, and maybe south Greenwood could be doable. Some areas of south Seattle also: Atlantic, north Beacon Hill, Columbia City, Leschi, Georgetown, etc. As I mentioned previously, northeast Seattle (near the Burke-Gilman Bike Trail) could possibly allow a bike or bike-bus commute.
Since most buses run downtown, from where you'd then need to transfer to get up on the Hill, these would mostly be car commutes. Some of it will simply come down to learning Seattle's "secret routes".
For instance, it can take me more than an hour to get from west Ballard to Capitol Hill on the bus (on two or three buses, depending on the route), and not just at peak times. Off-peak by car, maybe 30 to 40 minutes.
For a transit commute, look to live on a direct bus route to near your workplace:
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07-12-2015, 01:54 PM
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Donkey, I was meshing the OP's 500-600k price point, desire to bike and Walden like desires. My plan, though far from perfect, does fit those criteria. Living near the Arboretum was mentioned, not going to happen in that price range. Though biking to work would be tough (though I know others who do from that area), I suspect the OP is referring to the ability to bike/walk at other times. I live in Phinney Ridge, take my daughter to school on North Capitol Hill every day at 7:40am in 23 minutes. Broadview and Carkeek are about 7 easy minutes north of my home on 3rd ave NW (we call it I-3), one of the great ways to get across this often busy town.
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Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)