Just convinced my 5th Seattleite to not get the vaccine!! What have you done lately? (Roy: approval, corporate)

[OneDawg]

Originally Posted by leastprime

Even Trump & family got vaccinated after suffering thru CoVid infection. If you think anti malaria drugs can keep CoVid at bay or as a therapy, then by all means do it. If masking up makes me feel safer, then iI will mask up.

Did you see them receive a jab?
HCQ DOES WORK

[rjshae]

Originally Posted by OneDawg

Did you see them receive a jab?
HCQ DOES WORK

If by "work" you mean it can cause blindness, then yes it does work. There's a reason it's a prescribed drug.

[leastprime]

Originally Posted by OneDawg

Did you see them receive a jab?
HCQ DOES WORK

Trump admitted he got jabbed. Early Jan 2021(?) or Dec 2020(?).
Don't know if HCQ works. I'd start with the vaccine first and then listen to advice of licensed doctors with experience.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by jerzdevil

yeah, the masks won't be enough either for vax or unvaxed.

CDC chief said we have entered the NWO and there won't be the way as before until very long time from now.

People need to learn to stay inside and be modest with all activities.

Bill Gates said if we do very well with vaccinating the public we won't have an over-population.

MSM talk out both sides of their mouth. Believe the one that helps the NWO.

What's the NWO?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by rjshae

If by "work" you mean it can cause blindness, then yes it does work. There's a reason it's a prescribed drug.

As I recall, Norway was using HCQ + vitamin C with success in treating Covid patients early on. Seems like a long time ago, now. And hospitals in NYC were using Vit. C with success. I don't recall now, if that was accompanied with HCQ or not.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by jerzdevil

Vaccinated people need to wear masks now. The new shots aren't good enough. Maybe after the next booster shots they can lower their mask again.

Johnson & Johnson says, they don't need to develop a booster shot. I read months ago, that they were discussing it, but now they say it's not needed. So far.

[Natnasci]

[quote=OneDawg;61472421]"Moderna Inc. jumped to a fresh record after S&P Dow Jones Indices said late on Thursday it plans to add the company to its benchmark index next week.

The Covid-19 vaccine maker rallied 10% to $286.43 Friday, the biggest move since March 31, as the company will replace Alexion Pharmaceuticals Inc. in the S&P 500 Index before the opening of trading on July 21. U.K. drugmaker AstraZeneca Plc’s roughly $39 billion deal for Alexion is set to close on the same day.

Moderna shares have skyrocketed more than threefold over the past 12 months with its coronavirus inoculation getting emergency use authorization in the U.S. in December, just a week behind the first approval for Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE’s vaccine. Earlier this week, its market valuation surpassed $100 billion, putting it in an elite group of biotech firms of that size.

As an innovator breaking new ground in messenger-RNA, the stock is viewed as the “Tesla of Biotech,” according to Michael Yee, a Jefferies analyst. Moderna is expected to boost its 2021 revenue guidance when the company reports second quarter results, likely in August, he said raising his share price target to a Wall Street high of $250 from $170, according to a report published Thursday." = Bloomberg News 16 July 2021

If you look at the patents from both companies - it says "gene therapy" not vaccine.[/QUOTE]

They are NOT gene therapies. That is false information.

"The Covid-19 mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy because they are not designed to alter or change your genes in any way. The U.S. National Library of Medicine (NLM) describes gene therapy as a technique that “may allow doctors to treat a disorder by inserting a gene into a patient’s cells instead of using drugs or surgery.” For example, doctors may be able to either inactivate or replace a mutated gene that isn’t functioning properly or place a new gene in your body that will do something to combat a disease.

A gene consists of DNA and serves as the “basic physical and functional unit of heredity,” according to the NLM. Messenger RNA, known as mRNA for short, is different from DNA. RNA stands for ribonucleic acid. DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid. DNA serves as the library for instructions to produce different proteins. When a cell wants to produce a protein, it uses the DNA to produce a copy of mRNA. That mRNA then serves as a blueprint for the protein that is built by the ribosomes in your cells. The DNA is in the nucleus of the cell. The ribosomes are not. Thus, the mRNA from a Covid-19 vaccine will not go into the nucleus but instead will simply go to the ribosomes, which in turn will manufacture the spike protein."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=317dde893d20

[rjshae]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

As I recall, Norway was using HCQ + vitamin C with success in treating Covid patients early on. Seems like a long time ago, now. And hospitals in NYC were using Vit. C with success. I don't recall now, if that was accompanied with HCQ or not.

Careful randomized controlled trials are needed to verify the efficacy of a particular drug treatment, or you run the risk that any particular use may just be getting lucky (or unlucky). The initial statistical bar for studies of interest is usually a 5% likelihood, but that still means 1 in 20 studies will show false results. It needs to be higher. Physics, for example, uses a 5-sigma threshold for a major discovery, or about one in 3.5 million.

Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine and/or Azithromycin

In a large randomized controlled platform trial of hospitalized patients in the United Kingdom (RECOVERY), hydroxychloroquine did not decrease 28-day mortality when compared to the usual standard of care. Patients who were randomized to receive hydroxychloroquine had a longer median hospital stay than those who received the standard of care. In addition, among patients who were not on invasive mechanical ventilation at the time of randomization, those who received hydroxychloroquine were more likely to subsequently require intubation or die during hospitalization than those who received the standard of care.

[jerzdevil]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

What's the NWO?

New world order, a broad term being used lately. In the past it was only used for conspiracy theories but now its used by WHO and leaders around the world. Bush Sr announced it in 1992.

[jerzdevil]

Bill Gates on Ted talk,

"First, we've got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3. "

But I'm the conspiracy theorist. My net worth fits in my pocket and I'm shorter than the big corporate skyscraper. I'm also not as smart and expertly as our government officials who work so very hard for our well being and produce great outcomes.