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Old 09-30-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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Sure, and look at this listeria breakout that has killed folks crazy enough to eat cantaloupe in summer! Now WHERE in the blue blasted blazes did they get that stuff from??? I saw a picture of the guy in Colorado who raised those melons. Then I heard about another farm raising romaine lettuce that also had listeria.

Makes me wonder who's sneaking in at night and dropping probably lab-quality germs in small farmers' gardens just to cause trouble. And of course, we don't hear about it till folks have already gotten sick! Funny, those who raise their own garden food, fertilizing it with manure and all sorts of stuff, never die of E. coli or listeria. You go figure.

I used to stand on the back of the wagon with a shovel, no one ever got sick, and the fields grew really well.

I wonder how long the listeria will stay in and around the ground there?
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Sure, and look at this listeria breakout that has killed folks crazy enough to eat cantaloupe in summer!
I read constantly, but I guess I'm not reading the right things because this is the first time I've heard that there is a season for eating cantaloupe. So when are we supposed to eat cantaloupe, and why? You act like the cantaloupe eating season is common knowledge, but I can assure you it is not.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I read constantly, but I guess I'm not reading the right things because this is the first time I've heard that there is a season for eating cantaloupe. So when are we supposed to eat cantaloupe, and why? You act like the cantaloupe eating season is common knowledge, but I can assure you it is not.
I guess you are used to seeing all types of fruits in your supermarket all year long.

It's like watermelon being available in the supermarket in January; just not the season for watermelon.

I only eat fruit/veggies in season and from local growers. What I can't get local though I end up paying more for organic in the supermarket.

The season for cantaloupe is June-August.
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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I read constantly, but I guess I'm not reading the right things because this is the first time I've heard that there is a season for eating cantaloupe. So when are we supposed to eat cantaloupe, and why? You act like the cantaloupe eating season is common knowledge, but I can assure you it is not.
Sure, if you want to eat fresh cantaloupe, you'd normally eat it in summer. That's why I used the little smiley rolling his eyes, to be sarcastic, as you just don't get fresh cantaloupe grown here in the US except for summer. Frozen, maybe (I dunno...can that stuff be frozen?) but not fresh, not whole. It doesn't grow in this country in winter (maybe in the deep south -- again, I dunno) so I was just commenting on how US-grown cantaloupe should be FRESH and non-diseased in summer, as opposed to melons grown in other countries and imported., where you don't know how they grew it or what they fertilized it with.

Come to think of it...haven't most all of these produce-borne diseases originated here in the US? Maybe we should all start eating produce from foreign countries exclusively, to avoid disease (sarcasm again).

Yup, summer's the time for fresh whole melon grown in the US.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: denison,tx
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Produce wise,I've pretty much decided that if I can't grow it myself, so I have control of what goes into the soil, I'm not going to buy it ! I know, I'll probably starve at that rate, but it will be my own fault and not some unknown,faceless person from God knows where.!
Haven't bought a watermelon or cantaloupe this whole season have just done without, as I couldn't get any to grow this year. Have done without a lot of fresh, homegrown stuff this year, and my food budget shows it.
Too much heat and no rain at all sure reeks havoc with growing anything.
Am hopeing my fall garden will produce something for my efforts.
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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Sure, and look at this listeria breakout that has killed folks crazy enough to eat cantaloupe in summer! Now WHERE in the blue blasted blazes did they get that stuff from??? I saw a picture of the guy in Colorado who raised those melons. Then I heard about another farm raising romaine lettuce that also had listeria.

Makes me wonder who's sneaking in at night and dropping probably lab-quality germs in small farmers' gardens just to cause trouble. And of course, we don't hear about it till folks have already gotten sick! Funny, those who raise their own garden food, fertilizing it with manure and all sorts of stuff, never die of E. coli or listeria. You go figure.
If I understand you correctly, you are trying to be sarcastic.

Anyways, anyone can die from anything - there are no guarantees in life. Yes, the small farmer can sell you infested produce but this small farmer will not affect millions of people (simply due to the size of his operation). Yes, you can grow your own tomatoes and manage to get them infected with e. coli. However, when someone like Tyson sells millions of pounds of infested chicken across 30 states, that's a problem. Or when someone like Monsanto sells billions of pounds of corn that was produced using genetically modified seeds only to realize 20 or 30 years from now that "oops, we now know what we didn't know 30 years ago", that's a problem too. You and I are probably both old enough to remember DDT. At the peak of its usage there were many people (including many scientists) who claimed it was so safe, they were going to take a bath in it with their families to prove it (I am exaggerating here but you get my point). There are many (MANY!) examples of scientific ignorance over the decades where things that were deemed safe in one year were unsafe 10 years later. It is OK maybe when that kind of ignorance affects a few folks but when it starts affecting a whole nation, that's a single point of failure.

My $.02
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