Time for partial preppers to step it up (grain, light, natural)
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If i had a neighbor that could produce enough biodeisel or methane that would be favorable, id want to produce some of that myself. I think an electric vehicle may be more practical to reduce the amount of stored fuel. There are several ways to charge it if u lack the resources to make or store fuel. In a serious post shtf life a horse may be the best. In cowboy movies they went on any terrain to their destination on a horse.
If i had a neighbor that could produce enough biodeisel or methane that would be favorable, id want to produce some of that myself. I think an electric vehicle may be more practical to reduce the amount of stored fuel. There are several ways to charge it if u lack the resources to make or store fuel. In a serious post shtf life a horse may be the best. In cowboy movies they went on any terrain to their destination on a horse.
I think it might be better not to overly depend on fuels. You would need a tank of gas to get maybe 300-400 miles away but then what?
Horses may be helpful but they have to eat and have plenty of water. Horses that aren't ridden a lot get flabby and they aren't going to be up to a 100 mile endurance ride. They could get you around roadblocks and jammed highways and up into the mountains.
I think it might be better not to overly depend on fuels. You would need a tank of gas to get maybe 300-400 miles away but then what?
Horses may be helpful but they have to eat and have plenty of water. Horses that aren't ridden a lot get flabby and they aren't going to be up to a 100 mile endurance ride. They could get you around roadblocks and jammed highways and up into the mountains.
I don't think it will be smart for anyone in post wrol to travel more than the distance they needed to for trade or like that and if they do, take enough fuel to get back. And horses, in a natural setting should be fine, probably shouldn't be kept so domesticated. I don't know. I think this is the thinking we have today in the suburbanized society because its prohibbited to ride along the road unless you live in a rare horse friendly environment.
I think it might be better not to overly depend on fuels.
I agree 100%!
We have just purchased 2 used motorscooters and a dirt bike, cheap. They all use gas, but sip it very frugally. They will be used for local trips, in decent weather. They need some work - tires and brakes on all, a new seat on one, and yet-to-be-determined engine work on all. They should fix up very nicely, as they all run, and don't sound too badly. Not too loud, either! Sure beats the crap out of our trucks and cars, as far as gas goes!
Now...I need to look into some sort of a little 'trailer' or even a sidecar, so that we can use 'em to bring along the cargo! Just because they're small, doesn't mean they don't have any power. Anything that runs on gasoline has a good bit of power to it.
I'm at best just a partial prepper. Even if something happens, I don't know what will happen in my area. I think I could probably stay put -- although you never know. I've been to a gas station when the credit card machine was down so they weren't operating but of course I just went to another that had a little old fashioned card machine that transfers the numbers to paper.
I wonder how many businesses are even equipped if the communications were to go out to handle more manual transactions?
I live where I can make it easily enough without heat in the winter. I saw the other day that Sam's is offering survival kits -- like a year's supply of dehydrated food. I can't afford to go into debt but it got me thinking -- if something really bad were to happen, would I have to evacuate and then bringing a years supply of food might not work out.
It would be smart to have at least 3 months worth of food and water.
I wonder how many businesses are even equipped if the communications were to go out to handle more manual transactions?
I live where I can make it easily enough without heat in the winter. I saw the other day that Sam's is offering survival kits -- like a year's supply of dehydrated food. I can't afford to go into debt but it got me thinking -- if something really bad were to happen, would I have to evacuate and then bringing a years supply of food might not work out.
It would be smart to have at least 3 months worth of food and water.
Walmart can't even take cash during a power failure; the case is the same with most of the large chains.
Survival foods are very expensive and often taste very bad; canned goods that you already use make better sense. keep as many cans as you will use during the period before expiration. Then if you must switch off fresh and frozen foods you'll be all set.
Consider natural disasters as well as crippling injury or illness that could keep you housebound for an extended period. Figure out what you use , then get a few extra cans everytime you go to the store.
Evacuation is the worst possible solution even if you have a secure place to go if the journey is either more than a few hours or through any urban area. Local people don't like refugees; they never have. In earlier times people killed them or made them slaves. Perhaps slavery will reappear to allow the fortunate ones to live.
However, you are doing an excellent job of needlessly spreading fear. I'm sure those who thrive on unwarranted fear have a secret shrine set up in your honor in their closets.
However, you are doing an excellent job of needlessly spreading fear. I'm sure those who thrive on unwarranted fear have a secret shrine set up in your honor in their closets.
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Mircea
The only fear there is comes from not being prepared. You don't belong in this forum, go in the political forum and talk about more important things like gay marraige.
I'm at best just a partial prepper. Even if something happens, I don't know what will happen in my area. I think I could probably stay put -- although you never know. I've been to a gas station when the credit card machine was down so they weren't operating but of course I just went to another that had a little old fashioned card machine that transfers the numbers to paper.
I wonder how many businesses are even equipped if the communications were to go out to handle more manual transactions?
I live where I can make it easily enough without heat in the winter. I saw the other day that Sam's is offering survival kits -- like a year's supply of dehydrated food. I can't afford to go into debt but it got me thinking -- if something really bad were to happen, would I have to evacuate and then bringing a years supply of food might not work out.
It would be smart to have at least 3 months worth of food and water.
One time in Walmart they had to quite checking people out because their machines weren't working. Someone made a joke "It's official Walmart finally made to much money". A year of dehydrated food takes up little room so itll be my choice to bring if I had to leave. That's why serious preppers have retreats in a whole new location, even if their real home is already a self sufficient homestead. You want to live somewhere ideally that doesn't flood, isn't in a densely populated area, and has water. A remote place in the hills for instance won't be evacuated, perfect for a retreat or homestead, because you want to be off the grid also, which is much harder and far more expensive to do in a suburban neighborhood.
However, you are doing an excellent job of needlessly spreading fear. I'm sure those who thrive on unwarranted fear have a secret shrine set up in your honor in their closets.
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Mircea
There is a huge difference between "fear" and making preparations for a possible occurrence. I use this example all the time, but it's a good one that is the exact same notion: that of a spare tire. If I carry a spare tire in my car trunk, am I crazed with fear? Am I needlessly spreading wide-eyed, insanity-invoking dread? Would I be wiser to not carry a spare just to show the world that I can drive down the road without the crippling fear that I may have a blowout at any second?
Or is it just that I am smart enough to be prepared (sans fear)?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Pusillanimous Poltroon
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Sure beats the crap out of our trucks and cars, as far as gas goes!
