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Old 01-15-2019, 12:39 AM
 
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I just don't see a big scale war where the US is actually threatened militarily.

If the US were to go to war with China it is China would have massive food shortages since they import so much food, with the US as the principal supplier. They had two massive famines last century and that has done a lot to form their policy. The US and its allies control shipping routes in and out of China so we can relatively easily starve them to death in any war.

Russia doesn't want a real war and would get their asses kicked by Nato in any conventional war. That's why Putin is so good at meeting his geopolitical goals through other means such as influening elections in foreign countries and cyberwarfare. Russia's leadership's greatest threat is its own populace who have really gotten the shaft the past 20 years.

I'm getting more and more certain that the US will be at war soon but it will be us picking a fight with Iran. Bolton is already asking the Pentagon for first strike scenarios. Trump desperately needs a war to distract from all of his other problems and Bolton can't wait to get some blood on his hands.

As far as preparedness. Most people will continue to live our lives normally. You do raise some great preparedness issues though and highlight quite well how the US has lost self-sufficiency in many key areas. People have so much clothes and shoes and stores have so much stock that I would never worry about minor things like that. The price of oil will skyrocket.

Otherwise it will be like any other bogus war the US has gotten into the past 50 years. Working class kids get to go new places and kill or get killed. The military-industrial complex gets orders for lots of fancy new toys we don't actually need and contractors charge exhorbidant amounts of money. Deficit spending will be way we finance it just like any other scheme to enrich the rich at the expense of the rest of us.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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You're right, it's a little early yet. China's economy won't match the US for another 6 years yet, and the Silk Road Project is not complete either. OTOH, the Chinese could destroy US shipping without firing a shot, by dumping the dollar. Their strategy would include economic warfare. I think it's wise to not be too smug. We won't always win.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:29 AM
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Totally. An economic war is far more realistic and possible. But, can be just as devastating as bullets and bombs.
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Old 01-15-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Too bad we overlook the war between modern America and traditional America, which goes on under our noses. The certain someone who got propped up to the top dog position never would have in previous centuries. And even if he somehow got in, he would have already been run him "out of town" by now. People were more pro-active in earlier times. Leaders where held more accountable.

We've let too much slip. Comparing to the country to a company, the quality had been shot, and the organization has gone beyond bankruptcy and closure. We just fool ourselves that the business is A-okay and running.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:24 PM
 
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Too bad we overlook the war between modern America and traditional America, which goes on under our noses. The certain someone who got propped up to the top dog position never would have in previous centuries. And even if he somehow got in, he would have already been run him "out of town" by now. People were more pro-active in earlier times. Leaders where held more accountable.

We've let too much slip. Comparing to the country to a company, the quality had been shot, and the organization has gone beyond bankruptcy and closure. We just fool ourselves that the business is A-okay and running.
I'm not sure where you are going but,

Your President Donald trump is trying to save our republic. He's our last chance.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:11 PM
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None of them care about us. At all.
It's all about power and control.
That republican/democrat nonsense is all smoke and mirrors. None of them care. They do what they must to retain and gain power.
Think of all the things we used to be able to have and do. Just sit back for only a minute and think.
All the rules, laws, regulations. It's mind blowing.
There aint nothing free about the land of the free anymore. We are bought and sold every day. We are on the road to communism. Think about how scared people are today to speak their mind or opinions in fear of backlash. It's frightening.
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I'm not sure where you are going but,
Your President Donald trump is trying to save our republic. He's our last chance.
There are some in this forum that have Trump Derangement Syndrome.
(and lots and lots of them in other forums)

https://www.wnd.com/2018/09/psychiat...l-and-serious/
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Too bad we overlook the war between modern America and traditional America.
True from one point of view, but hilarious from another.

Which is (a) traditional America and what is (b) modern America?
  1. Creator endowed rights and liberties
  2. Mandatory militia duty - obligation to train, fight, and die on command - an abrogation of the right to life and liberty
  3. Absolute ownership of private property
  4. Qualified ownership of real estate, subject to ad valorem taxes
  5. Compulsory charity and expropriation of surplus
  6. Homeless crisis
aaaabb

American people have Creator endowed rights (Declaration of Independence)
American citizens have mandatory civic duties (all constitutions)
Private property is expressly protected in all constitutions
Real estate is subject to taxation and regulation
Voluntary socialism (FICA) imposes obligations to surrender one's labor and property in exchange for access to 'entitlements'
Prior to socialism (1930), vagrancy (homelessness) was a crime and punishable (however some might argue that giving free shelter and free food to a convicted vagrant was counter productive)
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:21 AM
 
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The fastest way to get the thread shut down or have it vanish is to bring in partisan politics. Don't go there.

The geopolitical world is highly complex. Some things to remember - Russia killed and deported a LOT of its population in WW II and currently has less than 150 million in a country that is close to landlocked. After its disaster in Afghanistan it much prefers compliant proxies in the middle east. Europe (especially Poland) could be at risk.

The U.S has twice the population of Russia, a defensible sea border on the two major oceans, and land borders with countries that don't dare to be enemy combatants. The resources available to the U.S. within the continent are staggering, including oil,coal, wood, food crops. The weak spot is certain rare minerals used in electronics, but some work-arounds are possible.

China has three times the U.S. population, but a multitude of languages and sub-cultures. It has followed the Japanese expansion of influence policy reasonably closely, but outside of the immediate area seems to have focus on developing Africa, with some investors hedging and infiltrating U.S. real estate and propaganda tools.

Hot spots are:

Venezuela. Likely handled best by coup or support of interior unrest.

Iran. Extremely complex, best handled with kid gloves, economic sanctions, and Israeli surgical strikes for some containment

North Korea. This, for various reasons, the one most likely to go "red hot." At risk is South Korea high-tech and brains, plus a domino China conflict. There are ways to prevent this, but it would be extremely tricky.

India is too far down the economic ladder and has too many other concerns to be a problem.

Wheras proxy wars and regional conflicts drag out (there are some pretty sick reasons for this) a hot general war between superpowers would most likely be very short - on the order of days or weeks.

Oh yeah - concerning social programs vs. incarceration of vagrants. The costs of incarceration are far greater and reaching crisis stage, which is why end-of-life prisoners are given "compassionate" release (to eliminate the medical cost burden), and "justice reform" is being trotted out. Prisons have become the same type of drain that mental hospitals were in the 1960s.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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any war will be over in minutes, the time it takes a nuclear rocket to arrive from wherever.
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