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Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost
I'm a non-prepper, and I actually think this experience has shown me how absurd prepping is. This is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of virus, which is the very sort of thing preppers prep for. And guess what? Thus far, the system has mostly worked. Sure, there might be a temporary difficulty in getting some things like toilet paper or milk, but the supply chain is still very much in place.
No part of me thinks "Man, the effort and expense that preppers undergo to be prepared for this sort of thing would have been worth it."
I live in a city that has had coronavirus deaths, and I can still go to the store and buy groceries. I still have about a month's worth of food at my house right now. Your SHTF scenario is happening, and it's doing nothing but proving that preppers have been wasting their time.
Oh good someone who thinks being prepared is stupid. Got any guns? If not, we'll eat you first...
Soo... YOU have a MONTHS worth of food. Welcome to the club. YOU are now prepared! LOL
Now, those who ARE NOT prepared are going to call you a hoarder and demand you share your food.
In my case we were sitting pretty, then my MIL "dropped in" for the duration , with no preps. I've had to scramble to restock as I planned for two, not three. (And no, she hasn't offered to help, and thinks my precautions are stupid, as she eats MY food.)
And it isn't the virus that is going to be the problem. It is the economic disaster being caused. I live in a smaller casino town - they just put 10,000 people, about half our work force out of work, shut the hotels, kicked the rvs off their properties causing a humanitarian crisis of hundreds of people with no place to go and no money to get there.
Our crime is going to take off next week when they can't afford to feed their kids.
The purpose of being stocked up to your neck with food and supplies is to limit your exposure with each trip. More trips out, greater the chance of exposure.
It doesn't matter if the supply chain is working well. If not exposure, state by state we are seeing lock downs. Maryland just issued a bunch of new restrictions. Look for the National Guard and military patrolling soon near you.
Why wouldn't people have some type of savings? Isn't that part of prepping? We haven't even reached stage 3 or 4 yet but if that happens I'm towing the trailer to the sticks along with my buddies.
One would hope. Indeed it should be part of prepping, but people tend to focus on the more melodramatic elements - stocking food and ammo.
Stock cash.
The ironic thing - those preppers that don't have cash savings because they invested every last dollar on MREs and ammo - the government, that very entity some preppers are preparing to fail, is bailing you out soon with a stimulus package.
One would hope. Indeed it should be part of prepping, but people tend to focus on the more melodramatic elements - stocking food and ammo.
Stock cash.
The ironic thing - those preppers that don't have cash savings because they invested every last dollar on MREs and ammo - the government, that very entity some preppers are preparing to fail, is bailing you out soon with a stimulus package.
You really should look to some real sources for information on preparedness. So far you've listed nearly every incorrect stereotype there is.
For instance, a large part of being prepared for disaster is having cash reserves, and for many, tangible liquid assets like gold and silver that retain value no matter what the paper dollar does.
Many invest in real estate with tools and supplies to not only ride out a pandemic or collapse, but to sustain themselves for extended periods of time. Replenishment by growing heritage gardens, raising livestock for meat, dairy, fiber and leather, stocking ponds with fish that can reproduce naturally, having flocks of chickens, turkeys, ducks and geese, and learning traditional medicine with the plants needed and how to use them.
Those guys on tv portrayed as doomsday peppers aren't a real portrayal of what prepping/ self reliance and self sufficiency really are.
Having cash reserves is basic to preparedness. MREs etc. are not necessarily part of someone's preps aside from emergency rations to feed you until you can access your supplies.
Really, the caricature you are trying to portray with your snide comments is more a reflection on you and your monolithic mindset than on those with the foresight to prepare for emergencies.
You give people too much credit. The vast majority can't see past their next new car or vacation or toy. Seriously planning for the future either in terms of supplies to survive an emergency or financially to pay for retirement or an unforseen medical emergency or job loss is beyond their capabilities.
People as a whole have no sense of history beyond their own lifetimes, and even then, as soon as the danger is past, they forget any lessons learned.
I moved to an area where I can be self sufficient, and many of my neighbors are as well. What I don't produce I can trade for with item I do create that they don't. It's a pretty insular community, but we take care of ourselves and each other.
The rest of the world can panic and fight over toilet paper all they want.
I'm tired of hearing how delusional I am for having some food and supplies put up for a rainy day, but then I'm supposed to help when there is an emergency? Think again.
Family and friends that need help fine. Everybody else can enjoy their grass soup and single ply toilet paper.
I've had 5 people already ask me to sell them a gun for cheap. Nope. You wanted those extensive laws now I can't legally do it quickly. I've had at least 10 people try to get me to part with some venison I shot last year. Not even try to trade or buy they want want me to be generous.
You really should look to some real sources for information on preparedness. So far you've listed nearly every incorrect stereotype there is.
For instance, a large part of being prepared for disaster is having cash reserves, and for many, tangible liquid assets like gold and silver that retain value no matter what the paper dollar does.
Many invest in real estate with tools and supplies to not only ride out a pandemic or collapse, but to sustain themselves for extended periods of time. Replenishment by growing heritage gardens, raising livestock for meat, dairy, fiber and leather, stocking ponds with fish that can reproduce naturally, having flocks of chickens, turkeys, ducks and geese, and learning traditional medicine with the plants needed and how to use them.
Those guys on tv portrayed as doomsday peppers aren't a real portrayal of what prepping/ self reliance and self sufficiency really are.
Having cash reserves is basic to preparedness. MREs etc. are not necessarily part of someone's preps aside from emergency rations to feed you until you can access your supplies..
OK fair enough, and actually I get that, the caricature (except for the personal insults, which I will ignore rather than report).
But then again in this same forum I see a thread saying "should I make a run at the bank". That's just nonsense thinking. Gardens and other preparation methods are always a good thing (they are good even if you aren't a prepper) but I just don't see it needed for this crises. Likewise cash reserves IN THE BANK are good, other investments are good for the diversification, but any concept of the financial system collapsing - again, just nonsense.
I've had 5 people already ask me to sell them a gun for cheap. Nope. You wanted those extensive laws now I can't legally do it quickly. I've had at least 10 people try to get me to part with some venison I shot last year. Not even try to trade or buy they want want me to be generous.
No trade? No way then. Especially as aren't in a SHTF situation. This is just a minor supply disruption.
I'm a non-prepper, and I actually think this experience has shown me how absurd prepping is. This is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of virus, which is the very sort of thing preppers prep for. And guess what? Thus far, the system has mostly worked. Sure, there might be a temporary difficulty in getting some things like toilet paper or milk, but the supply chain is still very much in place.
No part of me thinks "Man, the effort and expense that preppers undergo to be prepared for this sort of thing would have been worth it."
I live in a city that has had coronavirus deaths, and I can still go to the store and buy groceries. I still have about a month's worth of food at my house right now. Your SHTF scenario is happening, and it's doing nothing but proving that preppers have been wasting their time.
We are barely into this thing. There is already talks of laying off hundreds of thousands of people.
I am a hunter. Nothing I've done has been a waste of time since I use the food/guns/ammo/water etc ALL the time, at least 3 months of the year. The oldest food gets ate first.
We are already seeing people that have specialty medical equipment that needs bottled water and they can't find any.
This thing is just getting rolling.....
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