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Old 04-18-2014, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Sol System
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I think we can upload a virus into the mothership.
Or knockout their main reactor , with the photonic cannons. I'm sure flying our fighters into the superstructure will inevitably lead to an access tunnel/exhaust port where an ace pilot could use ESP to guide a torpedo into the reactor. Barring using the Stargate to dial a wormhole to a planet that just happens to be in the process of falling into a singularity , then releasing the gate into our sun , exponentially increasing the gravity in the core , resulting in near immediate collapse. Oh wait , the resulting artificial supernova would destroy us as well.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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No. If they were able to get here, their level of technology would be hundreds to millions of years ahead of our's. We would certainly try but it would be like modern-day America with stealth aircraft, drones, guided missels, and nukes going to war with medevil Europe with their swords, spears, and bow and arrows. Or worse. Modern-day America vs cave men.
This is the answer. Any civilization that has the technology to get here has the technology to do pretty much whatever it wants to do once it's here. We would have absolutely zero chance of defending ourselves, in any conceivable scenario.
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: midwest
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No. If they were able to get here, their level of technology would be hundreds to millions of years ahead of our's. We would certainly try but it would be like modern-day America with stealth aircraft, drones, guided missels, and nukes going to war with medevil Europe with their swords, spears, and bow and arrows. Or worse. Modern-day America vs cave men.
Hundreds of millions!?!

Surely 10,000 would be sufficient. What we call science is only about 400 years old.

Wouldn't they just capture some people for genetic samples and then bio-engineer some deadly airborne diseases and spray them in the atmosphere?

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Old 04-24-2014, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Hundreds of millions!?!

Surely 10,000 would be sufficient. What we call science is only about 400 years old.

Wouldn't they just capture some people for genetic samples and then bio-engineer some deadly airborne diseases and spray them in the atmosphere?

psik
The more exoplanets we find, the less likely the possibility of any alien invasion. After all, our observations pretty much demonstrate that our galaxy is resource rich. Approximately 22% ± 8% of all Sun-like stars harbor at least one planet. Many of them more than one planet.

Which makes Earth nothing special, and becoming even less special with every exoplanet we find.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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The more exoplanets we find, the less likely the possibility of any alien invasion. After all, our observations pretty much demonstrate that our galaxy is resource rich. Approximately 22% ± 8% of all Sun-like stars harbor at least one planet. Many of them more than one planet.

Which makes Earth nothing special, and becoming even less special with every exoplanet we find.
Yeah, the alien invasion thing is just paranoia combined with an excuse for the author to write what he thinks is a good story.

What will another 200 years of robotic development do? Robot asteroid miners, robots to do 95% of all manual labor probably. Why would any technologically advanced culture give a damn about invading anybody?

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Old 04-25-2014, 06:38 PM
 
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Hundreds of millions!?!

Surely 10,000 would be sufficient. What we call science is only about 400 years old.
Hundreds to millions. Meaning, anywhere from hundreds to millions ahead.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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The more exoplanets we find, the less likely the possibility of any alien invasion. After all, our observations pretty much demonstrate that our galaxy is resource rich. Approximately 22% ± 8% of all Sun-like stars harbor at least one planet. Many of them more than one planet.

Which makes Earth nothing special, and becoming even less special with every exoplanet we find.
That's a very good point; I'm embarrassed that I never considered that.

Still leaves one possible reason, though, and this one is all the more chilling... maybe for the same reason that we kill rattlesnakes when we find them in our backyard - because the neighborhood is safer for our children without rattlesnakes.

We are an aggressive, expansionist, warlike, highly unstable species, with a clever aptitude for developing horrifically destructive weapons and a demonstrated history of annihilating members of our own species by the tens of millions, with no hesitation or remorse. If you were an advanced civilization, and you found such a species developing interstellar space flight in your part of the galaxy, what would you do?
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That's a very good point; I'm embarrassed that I never considered that.
Considering that the very first exoplanet was discovered less than 20 years ago, and they have been doing alien invasion stories/movies for the last 90 years or so, it is an easy oversight to make.
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Still leaves one possible reason, though, and this one is all the more chilling... maybe for the same reason that we kill rattlesnakes when we find them in our backyard - because the neighborhood is safer for our children without rattlesnakes.
You and I have very different views about rattlesnakes. By age 12 my brother and I caught diamondbacks and sold them for $5/snake for their venom. The snakes were then released a few days latter. We sold dozens of rattlers, and never got bit. I would certainly never kill one.

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We are an aggressive, expansionist, warlike, highly unstable species, with a clever aptitude for developing horrifically destructive weapons and a demonstrated history of annihilating members of our own species by the tens of millions, with no hesitation or remorse. If you were an advanced civilization, and you found such a species developing interstellar space flight in your part of the galaxy, what would you do?
First, we are just now starting to develop interplanetary spaceflight. There is no way we will ever develop interstellar spaceflight. That will always remain in the realm of science fiction. So there is no need for any other lifeforms to be concerned.

Second, why would anyone come all this way just to wipe us out if we are doing such a good job of it already?
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Hundreds to millions. Meaning, anywhere from hundreds to millions ahead.
Or possibly billions of years ahead of us. After all, the universe was already more than 9 billion years old before our sun even formed.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:52 AM
 
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If a space faring civilization could visit Earth i dont see why they would feel the need to wipe us out, what would be the point?However in the very unlikely scenario we achieved Startrek status and we found many other civilizations out there there would be wars and conflicts.
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