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Old 06-25-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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This house is awesome:

6321 Mud Mill Rd, Cicero, NY 13029 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

Looks like it needs nothing but a few new ceiling fans, taxes reasonable for 2,000 sq. ft and 1/2 acre. Not saying anyone should buy this, as I don't know much about the situation, but just remarking about what a nice house this is.

This house near a lake in NJ would be $400k and $10k taxes.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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This house is awesome:

6321 Mud Mill Rd, Cicero, NY 13029 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

Looks like it needs nothing but a few new ceiling fans, taxes reasonable for 2,000 sq. ft and 1/2 acre. Not saying anyone should buy this, as I don't know much about the situation, but just remarking about what a nice house this is.

This house near a lake in NJ would be $400k and $10k taxes.
True and there are a couple of lake beaches not too far away either. Not far from shopping as well. That zip code grew by just over 25% in population between 2000-2010 too.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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True and there are a couple of lake beaches not too far away either. Not far from shopping as well. That zip code grew by just over 25% in population between 2000-2010 too.
Let's face it, while there are cheap homes in the South and low taxes, you're gonna have a real hard time finding a house near a large lake that's 2,000 sq. ft for this price. Even with taxes and only 10% down, this house could be $1000 a month.

So, if you can make $35k, and your SO can make $35k, you're making $70k combined and have a mortgage and full tax payment of $12k a year. Leaving $58k for other costs. These are assuming very low salaries too. $2k would be needed for a definite week-long trip to Florida or Vegas in February.

If one of you lost your job, you're still around 35% of your gross salary going toward housing.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm writing this not to convince anyone of anything, but to kinda work things out for myself, and if anyone is helped along the way, so be it. If I'm wrong, tell me so, but I'm just not seeing how Upstate NY is all that expensive.
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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Let's face it, while there are cheap homes in the South and low taxes, you're gonna have a real hard time finding a house near a large lake that's 2,000 sq. ft for this price. Even with taxes and only 10% down, this house could be $1000 a month.

So, if you can make $35k, and your SO can make $35k, you're making $70k combined and have a mortgage and full tax payment of $12k a year. Leaving $58k for other costs. These are assuming very low salaries too. $2k would be needed for a definite week-long trip to Florida or Vegas in February.

If one of you lost your job, you're still around 35% of your gross salary going toward housing.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm writing this not to convince anyone of anything, but to kinda work things out for myself, and if anyone is helped along the way, so be it. If I'm wrong, tell me so, but I'm just not seeing how Upstate NY is all that expensive.
What you are saying is reasonable. To put what you are saying into perspective, look at the median household income for the census tract and census block group that home is in: Census Tract 010200 in Onondaga County, New York

Census Block Group 010200-3 in Onondaga County, New York

Actually, here is info for the zip: 13029 Zip Code
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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What you are saying is reasonable. To put what you are saying into perspective, look at the median household income for the census tract and census block group that home is in: Census Tract 010200 in Onondaga County, New York

Census Block Group 010200-3 in Onondaga County, New York

Actually, here is info for the zip: 13029 Zip Code
Without even looking at this site, I basically had it right on with the average household income being $70k.

Not sure but for some reason I thought Cicero was a majority Italian area. It looks like 30% German, 27% Irish, and 16% Italian. Not that it matters, I don't care, at least there will be a few of my fellow guidos there
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Without even looking at this site, I basically had it right on with the average household income being $70k.

Not sure but for some reason I thought Cicero was a majority Italian area. It looks like 30% German, 27% Irish, and 16% Italian. Not that it matters, I don't care, at least there will be a few of my fellow guidos there
It depends on the part of the town, but like you mentioned, anywhere in the Northern suburbs and you will see quite a few people of Italian descent.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Not Oneida
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I went to that house on Bates Ave.

Nice area but that house is a dump. Even on my block that house would stand out but in that area its an eyesore.

A slumlord will buy it and the Section 8 cancer will spread its poison in that area.

Of much more interest to me would be this one. Looks great from the road but again needs a ton of work.

Search Oneida, Canastota, Sherrill Real Estate Listings For Sale
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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It depends on the part of the town, but like you mentioned, anywhere in the Northern suburbs and you will see quite a few people of Italian descent.
Is it more of these types of Italians:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...12_balcony.jpg

Or these:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrkzcixqz21qdmltp.jpg

I'm the first kind.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Not Oneida
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Is it more of these types of Italians:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...12_balcony.jpg

Or these:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrkzcixqz21qdmltp.jpg

I'm the first kind.

I call BS.

I can hear the Jersey Shore in your posts.

JK LOL.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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Is it more of these types of Italians:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...12_balcony.jpg

Or these:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrkzcixqz21qdmltp.jpg

I'm the first kind.
Wow......Umm, I'll say more of the first. Honestly, you don't really see Italian dudes with blowouts here in the Syracuse area. You are more likely to see them with a fade, ceasar, bald or whatever else.

I guess the people in these pics are more common(shrug): https://www.facebook.com/grotto101
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