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I get your point, but this is where the type of community comes into play. Are people just "rude" in NYC or is it a matter of having to live in a fast pace environment with millions of other people in a relatively small space?
To bring it back to Syracuse, you can have your pessimism, but you also have your optimistic folks as well. Then, you have those can go either way or are even keeled.
I think its both. You have to be somewhat rude to not get taken advantage of. In the beehive, you have to sting or be stung. You always hear NYers (and I mean downstate) saying "I don't take no chit from anybody".
Personally, I found the range of people Upstate to fall from cold / smug / unwelcoming to downright friendly and downhome as you travel the Thruway east to west. Albany/Schenetady/Troy sorry to say, not all that friendly. Utica a lil less so. Syracuse people were friendly, IMO. Rochester and Buffalo people were definitely more helpful and welcoming, almost Midwestern.
The coldness from New England and the rudeness from NYC/NJ radiates only so far. Once you get past Harrisburg in PA and start to see Steelers shirts, the whole attitude changes. Its palpable. In NY, I'd put the dividing line around Binghamton / Ithaca area. Keep in mind that this is just my personal assessment, and I have some different ideas about different parts of the country that most people would think are crazy
This is a very accurate statement and one of the many reasons why I'm moving south. I have found I blend very well in Florida and South Carolina. I just hoping the rude folks don't follow me.
In 2013, I found Raleigh Durham to be pretty laid back and friendly, with nice drivers and courtesy.
In 2016, I went back and found it completely overrun with NY/NJ/LI everywhere. Driving was like driving on the LIE and it was only slightly better than Atlanta. Such a shame.
When I was younger I used to crisscross the country on my motorcycle.
I'd say the West was where people are the nicest.
The South has always been very good to me. One funny this to me is when in Florida the ex NYers are always nice. When I was a kid NY was full of nice people. Now I know where they disappeared to.
A wild guess is that as the nice NYers die off and the nasty NYers that make up the current bunch move South Florida will take a turn for the worse.
BTW its Upstaters I consider unpleasant. Downstaters I find to be always in a hurry but always civil.
But you get Montana, SD or Wyoming way I find the people to be just how people should be.
The far West, Left coast, I think the people are nice but maybe alittle weird. Lotta pot that way so maybe its that.
I think America has also gotten ruder and less concerned with others as time goes on. As a whole. But yes, I do think there are significant differences in the regions.
In 2013, I found Raleigh Durham to be pretty laid back and friendly, with nice drivers and courtesy.
In 2016, I went back and found it completely overrun with NY/NJ/LI everywhere. Driving was like driving on the LIE and it was only slightly better than Atlanta. Such a shame.
Someone my wife and I knew moved to Durham. We couldn't wait for her to go so we wouldn't have to speak with her again.
Gasoline Station at 1001 Butternut St Syracuse NY 13208
Syracuse Herald Journal
Issue Date: July 17, 1945
Article about John Letter who owned a gas station for 25 years in Syracuse NY located at 1001 Butternut St beginning about 1922. The caption on his picture states that he has pumped over 4 million gallons of gasoline.
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I guess later on it became Bud's Gulf Station which operated at 1001 Butternut St until about 1974, in Syracuse NY. They sold your regular petroleum and oil that you'd find in at any gas station. I remember Bud used to park his 1957 chevy out front when I was a kid on the Northside.
From an outside viewpoint there isn’t much. I mean you have some very good grocery stores(wegmans) and one of the better malls in the US(destiny), 4 hours from NYC, 2 hours from buffalo, you have Canada not too far away. Ithaca makes a good day trip, lots of natural lakes to boat on. Weather isn’t too extreme. Lots of history and the place is somewhat lively. Being in my early 20s SU campus is always lit on a Friday or Saturday night.
But at the same time I grew up here so I overlook some of the downsides such as fairly long winters, not much to do within the area.
I work in Little Rock Arkansas 11 months out of the year and being there I really start to appreciate how good Syracuse is. But I also see some similarities too, such as fairly weak night life.
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