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Old 06-20-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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i will say "true."

sort of like the saying: "Guns don't kill people; Bullets kill people."

someone might employ a keylogger in the process of hacking you, but no, the keylogger is not sentient and cannot hack you.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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Less than 10% of iOS devices in the USA are jailbroken. If your device isn't jailbroken, there's no way to get apps on it that aren't vetted by Apple, unless you pay to be a developer.
Just curious where you got the 10% figure. I am not disputing because I don't know that anyone really has any idea at all what the true percentage is but I will say that the few people that I know that have iPhones, almost all of them are jailbroken. Of course almost everyone I know that has an Android phone has it rooted too but a lot of my friends are techies so we screw with everything. lol
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:18 PM
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Just curious where you got the 10% figure. I am not disputing because I don't know that anyone really has any idea at all what the true percentage is but I will say that the few people that I know that have iPhones, almost all of them are jailbroken. Of course almost everyone I know that has an Android phone has it rooted too but a lot of my friends are techies so we screw with everything. lol
iOS jailbreaking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Cydia creator Jay Freeman estimates that more than 10% of all iPhones are jailbroken."

Cydia is the main software repository for use by jailbroken iOS devices, so its creator would have access to real data to make an estimate. I extrapolated that to include iPads, which have sold in the tens of millions, aren't all tied to particular phone carriers and thus have little need to be jailbroken. That's how I determined the total would be less than 10 percent. Imprecise, but logical.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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A program creates the virtual keyboard on the screen. The output of that virtual keyboard is basically the same as the output of a 'real' keyboard, and all that is required is a software keylogger to intercept and capture that data.

It can be a software hook, or it can be a Kernel/driver keylogger.
But how can a "software keylogger" access your iPad from a remote location? I am just curious about how the keylogger is going to break through the network and intercept the communication between the iPad and keyboard. Also, how can any keylogger access your iPad if you aren't connected to the Internet?
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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But how can a "software keylogger" access your iPad from a remote location? I am just curious about how the keylogger is going to break through the network and intercept the communication between the iPad and keyboard. Also, how can any keylogger access your iPad if you aren't connected to the Internet?
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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aren't all tied to particular phone carriers and thus have little need to be jailbroken.
Wait, what?


Jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Hmm, I think the double negative in the question led me to get the numbers backwards. Here's what I really meant:

iOS = 10, AFAIK impenetrable thus far

Android = 2, compromised in other ways similar to a keylogger and only a matter of time IMHO

Windows = 1, keyloggers and methods of infection are in the wild for this OS
thanks for the clarification. i will consider anything that gets a 10 or a 9,etc. even though posters aren't really using the scale of 1-10 like i originally asked but no biggie.

yes my wording wasn't the best. some people use 'hack' to mean 'handle' (e.g. jessica couldn't hack it in the fashion biz, so she quit and settled for a non-glamorous job.)

i meant 'hack' as in violate/break in

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Old 06-22-2011, 12:26 PM
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Wait, what?


Jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking.
It seems like the folks I know who jailbroke their iphone did it at the same time as unlocking, so I presume there's a tremendous overlap between the two. The "If I'm unlocking, I might as well jailbreak, too" school of thought.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:27 PM
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Wait, what?


Jailbreaking is not the same as unlocking.
It seems like the folks I know who jailbroke their iphone did it at the same time as unlocking, so I presume there's a tremendous overlap between the two. The "If I'm unlocking, I might as well jailbreak, too" school of thought.

IIRC, a lot of jailbreakers do that to share pirated apps that cost money in the App Store.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Unlocking is where you enable your phone on other networks, besides the one it was meant for (aka, ATT/Verizon in the states). Jailbreaking is rooting and installing Cydia, which is of course the 3rd party app store that allows downloading and installing of Apple-unapproved apps.

I have jailbroken iPhones and iPods, but I didn't unlock the iPhones because, well, simply put, I was in a contract with ATT anyway, it wasn't like I was going anywhere.
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