Teachers: How large are your classes/ (hire, complain, percentage, expensive)
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Darn. I just checked. One of my classes is up to 36 . I don't even have 36 seats. To get 35 in my classroom, I have to seat two students at my demo table.
I know the numbers will drop off after a few weeks but this is going to make the first few weeks very difficult. And, of course, it's my last class of the day. When I'm tired and they're tired....and I have labs planned for week two and three...This will be fun....NOT!
My classroom max is 24 by law. A friend in a differrent district had 4 students in her bilingual classroom while the other grade level teachers hit their max.
One-to-one teacher-student ratio, where I work. It's pretty awesome.
That I wouldn't like. I like the grou dynamics. I like how the kids can feed off of each other in developing ideas. Unless I were dealing with a special needs child, I'd find 1:1 pretty boring.
I'm furious over the these crazy large classes. One person CANNOT monitor 35 students esp in a science setting.
I agree. Unfortunately, my administration doesn't seem to realize that. They see full classes as a bargain.
I wouldn't mind large classes if they gave me a TA and a large enough classroom. My class is packed with 28 students in it. It's standing room only with 36. I can seat 30 but I leave myself about 3 feet in front of the room between the board and the first students desk and cram the rows too close together. My room could, comfortably, seat 24 and labs wouldn't be an issue. They put half again that many in the room and it's a nightmare. I can't monitor 36 students and the students know it and take advantage of it.
I agree. Unfortunately, my administration doesn't seem to realize that. They see full classes as a bargain.
I wouldn't mind large classes if they gave me a TA and a large enough classroom. My class is packed with 28 students in it. It's standing room only with 36. I can seat 30 but I leave myself about 3 feet in front of the room between the board and the first students desk and cram the rows too close together. My room could, comfortably, seat 24 and labs wouldn't be an issue. They put half again that many in the room and it's a nightmare. I can't monitor 36 students and the students know it and take advantage of it.
Who said they suffer? Would you please link to the post where I, supposedly, said "suffering" in classes too large for the teacher to maintain order is good for students?
I recall talking about struggling with learning being good for students and I think it is. When material is difficult or they have to step outside of the box WRT the learning method, there's a lot to be learned. However, I don't recall talking about "suffering" in any way shape or form being good for students. or are you claiming suffering is good for them?
Besides, they're not the ones who suffer. That would be me. My stress levels are through the roof in large classes. Especially during labs. Exactly how do you think my students "suffer" here?
Who said they suffer? Would you please link to the post where I, supposedly, said "suffering" in classes too large for the teacher to maintain order is good for students?
I recall talking about struggling with learning being good for students and I think it is. When material is difficult or they have to step outside of the box WRT the learning method, there's a lot to be learned. However, I don't recall talking about "suffering" in any way shape or form being good for students. or are you claiming suffering is good for them?
Besides, they're not the ones who suffer. That would be me. My stress levels are through the roof in large classes. Especially during labs. Exactly how do you think my students "suffer" here?
You also observed that what does not kill me makes me stronger and what we learn in pain we retain.
Did you use the word "suffer?" No.
And if you struggle, then isn't that good for you, according to you?
And isn't it more of a struggle for students to learn in a class of 35 than 28? So, wouldn't that better for them, as well, by your view of things?
Think of the learning experiences!
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Sincerely, though, I am sorry that your classroom is being overcrowded beyond your ability to monitor effectively or conduct labs safely - and sorry that so many classrooms for so many teachers are being overcrowded.
It doesn't make for good learning, good teaching, or good living.
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