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Old 03-26-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: TMI
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San Antonio improved
How would you know? You've never been to Texas. Houston is nicer.
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Old 03-26-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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My town is living proof of what you are arguing against... Years ago the Hill Country was flooded with German immigrants. Many started school here without knowing a word of English but they learned!! And guess what -- people flock from all over the state and the country to enjoy what the German immigrants have shared with us from their culture. Shoot, for better or worse, they've made a tourist industry out of it!

Out of touch? Really? Just how many Mexican people do you know personally? I know of many who have dreams and aspirations of success, and many of them have achieved it. I know adults who speak fairly good English but still take CE English classes because they know it's the right thing to do, for their future and their kids'. I volunteer in the schools and see how hard these children from Spanish-speaking homes work to catch up -- and they do!! These are just my observations based on talking to people in the community, my kids' friends, our friends. So who is out of touch?
The Germans rarely spoke or learned English until after WWI...my grandparents still prefer German over English. In fact my username is a Texas-German word! My point being, if there is no inclination to learn the language, you won't. I agree that a majority have the drive to learn and it will lead to good things for them....and with that more political clout. If the democrats think that they have the Hispanic vote locked, they are in for a rude awakening.
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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Houston isn't predominately poor and I have no idea what he's talking about. San Antonio is actually the poorest major metro area in Texas.

Are you sure about that? San Antonio also has a higher median family income than Houston and Dallas. San Antonio and Austin have about the same per capita income but based on latest stats S.A has probably surpassed Austin.

Total Personal Income for U.S. Metropolitan Areas, 2009
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regi...df/mpi0810.pdf



1. New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 998,776,802
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 551,271
3. Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 418,929
4. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC 296,134 305,595 309,08
5. Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 265,838 272,829 271,943 6. San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 263,201 266,680 257,761 1.3
7. Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 248,161 262,484 255,635 5.8
8. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 254,067 262,549 254,769 3.3
9. Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 243,740 250,811 246,471 2.9 -1.7
10. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 234,822 236,645 229,380 0.8
11. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA ( 2008)206,463 (2009)199,747 Loss
12. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 164,759 169,798 166,902 3.1
13. Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 170,963 172,649 165,311 1.0
14. Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ 153,131 155,014 149,611 1.2
15. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 150,181 154,282 149,594 2.7
16. San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 136,616 140,847 139,345 3.1
17. Baltimore-Towson, MD 128,213 129,061 3.
18. Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 122,811 125,379 124,004 2.1
19. Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO 116,354 120,044 117,350
20. St. Louis, MO-IL 112,948 117,886 114,127 4.4
21. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 105,576 105,979 101,926 0.4
22. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 101,211 102,407 101,045 1.2 -1.3
23. Pittsburgh, PA 95,780 99,172 99,418 3.5
24. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 85,339 88,022 86,822 3.1
25. Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville, CA 84,193 86,397 85,596 2.6
26. Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 82,568 84,330 82,897 -2.1
27. Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 82,646 84,009 82,288 1.6
28. Kansas City, MO-KS 80,154 82,653 81,915 3.1
29. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 68,213 70,947 71,489 4.0
30. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL 72,381 73,612 71,458 1.7
31. Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 73,444 75,013 71,275 -2.1
32. Columbus, OH 67,204 68,952 68,907
33. Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 65,586 67,623 66,850 3.1
34. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 63,748 65,639 66,434 3.
35. Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA 63,409 65,391 65,291 3.1
36. Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC 67,612 65,234
37. Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 64,768 66,396 65,031 2.5
38. Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX 59,758, 61,800 60,568 3.4
39. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN 60,049 61,893 60,548
40. Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 59,198 60,458 59,402 2.1
41. Jacksonville, FL 52,267 52,697 51,533 0.8
42. Richmond, VA 50,735 51,918 51,065 2.3
43. Memphis, TN-MS-AR 49,107 50,094 48,
44. New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA 48,912 48,775 47,419 -0.3
45. Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN 46,378 47,484 47,208 2.4 -0.6
46. Oklahoma City, OK 44,274 46,951 46,525 6.0
47. Birmingham-Hoover, AL 43,734 44,798 43,511 2.4 -2.
48. Raleigh-Cary, NC 41,897 43,182 42,611 3.1
49. Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 42,317 42,155 3.8
50. Salt Lake City, UT 41,551 42,505 41,805 2.3
51. Honolulu, HI 39,258 40,809 41,282 4.0 1.2
52. Rochester, NY 39,852 41,132 40,586 3.2
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Are you sure about that? San Antonio also has a higher median family income than Houston and Dallas. San Antonio and Austin have about the same per capita income but based on latest stats S.A has probably surpassed Austin.

Total Personal Income for U.S. Metropolitan Areas, 2009
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regi...df/mpi0810.pdf



1. New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA 998,776,802
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 551,271
3. Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 418,929
4. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC 296,134 305,595 309,08
5. Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 265,838 272,829 271,943 6. San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 263,201 266,680 257,761 1.3
7. Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 248,161 262,484 255,635 5.8
8. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 254,067 262,549 254,769 3.3
9. Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 243,740 250,811 246,471 2.9 -1.7
10. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 234,822 236,645 229,380 0.8
11. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA ( 2008)206,463 (2009)199,747 Loss
12. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 164,759 169,798 166,902 3.1
13. Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 170,963 172,649 165,311 1.0
14. Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ 153,131 155,014 149,611 1.2
15. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 150,181 154,282 149,594 2.7
16. San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 136,616 140,847 139,345 3.1
17. Baltimore-Towson, MD 128,213 129,061 3.
18. Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 122,811 125,379 124,004 2.1
19. Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO 116,354 120,044 117,350
20. St. Louis, MO-IL 112,948 117,886 114,127 4.4
21. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 105,576 105,979 101,926 0.4
22. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 101,211 102,407 101,045 1.2 -1.3
23. Pittsburgh, PA 95,780 99,172 99,418 3.5
24. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 85,339 88,022 86,822 3.1
25. Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville, CA 84,193 86,397 85,596 2.6
26. Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 82,568 84,330 82,897 -2.1
27. Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 82,646 84,009 82,288 1.6
28. Kansas City, MO-KS 80,154 82,653 81,915 3.1
29. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 68,213 70,947 71,489 4.0
30. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL 72,381 73,612 71,458 1.7
31. Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 73,444 75,013 71,275 -2.1
32. Columbus, OH 67,204 68,952 68,907
33. Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 65,586 67,623 66,850 3.1
34. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 63,748 65,639 66,434 3.
35. Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA 63,409 65,391 65,291 3.1
36. Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC 67,612 65,234
37. Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 64,768 66,396 65,031 2.5
38. Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX 59,758, 61,800 60,568 3.4
39. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN 60,049 61,893 60,548
40. Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 59,198 60,458 59,402 2.1
41. Jacksonville, FL 52,267 52,697 51,533 0.8
42. Richmond, VA 50,735 51,918 51,065 2.3
43. Memphis, TN-MS-AR 49,107 50,094 48,
44. New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA 48,912 48,775 47,419 -0.3
45. Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN 46,378 47,484 47,208 2.4 -0.6
46. Oklahoma City, OK 44,274 46,951 46,525 6.0
47. Birmingham-Hoover, AL 43,734 44,798 43,511 2.4 -2.
48. Raleigh-Cary, NC 41,897 43,182 42,611 3.1
49. Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 42,317 42,155 3.8
50. Salt Lake City, UT 41,551 42,505 41,805 2.3
51. Honolulu, HI 39,258 40,809 41,282 4.0 1.2
52. Rochester, NY 39,852 41,132 40,586 3.2
Look at disposable income. Metro SA also gains the lowest amount of high paying jobs out of the four. It's a known fact that SA is the poorest of the four larger metro areas in Texas. That's not saying the place is rundown or anything, but it's the truth. Just look at the industries of SA compared to the other three.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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LOl no.......... that makes no sense. San Antonio for sure has more of a disposable income than Austin, have you forgot about overpriced real estate. San Antonio and Austin's workforces are just thousands apart yet SA has about 11 Billion more in income. Austin has a strong economy but much less diversified than S.A's. I would say a tie between Dallas and Houston but San Antonio would be third, followed by Austin.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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They do tend to be politically active, but unfortunately for them, they cast their lots with the Democrats and thus have little political influence in the state. In the last election however, more Latino's have started to run as, and vote for, Republicans and as a result have made large gains politically. This comes as rude shock to Democrats who have always assumed that the Latino vote was granted to them exclusively.
Its unfortunate that they vote for the party that advocates their interests? More like Democracy. All the Republicans do to hispanics is slice up the electoral map into laughably ridiculous pieces and pass voter ID bills in an attempt to disenfranchise hispanic voters. Then the Republicans who turned a blind eye to illegal immigration in the housing boom now seek to kick the children of these workers out of the public school system as a reward. No working class hispanic with a clear view of the facts should vote for the Republican party as they are in diametric opposition to their interests.

The depths the Republican party will sink to in an attempt to disenfranchise hispanic voters was shown in South Texas. Hispanics voted for a Democrat in South Texas who promptly disgraced himself and the office by changing to a Republican immediately after being elected. How long do Republicans think their petty disgraceful games will work in disenfranchising voters? Heres an idea serve all Texans as you swore to do in your oath of office.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Cali
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About assimilation look at that :

New York’s Little Italy, Littler by the Year



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/ny...ttleitaly.html

Italian-Americans are completely assimilated now, they're US-born and speak english fluently.
The same trends are occuring in the Cuban-American community, and you'll see the same thing for Mexican-Americans.
Lets hope.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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But looking at Texas demographics, if you don't know Spanish, why would you learn any language OTHER than Spanish? Seems to be by far the most practical option.
Maybe due to an interest in a language OTHER than Spanish? Learning a language due to interest rather than practicality. The music student who wants to learn Italian to appreciate opera more fully. The Chinese-American immigrant who speaks English as a native language but wants to learn or refine his or her Chinese. There are many reasons.

Also, when someone feels something is pushed on them, them don't want to do it. If you aren't familiar with the concept, find someone who smokes and tell them about the horrors of smoking and how they should quit.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous nonsense. Show me one Hispanic kid that goes all the way through public school in Texas that comes out not knowing proficient English.



And nobody is forced to learn Spanish in this country. You have to take a foreign language in high school, but it does not have to be Spanish.
You obviously don't have a clue, where I live the kids must take Spanish and other languages aren't offered.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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You obviously don't have a clue, where I live the kids must take Spanish and other languages aren't offered.
Thats the schools fault. The government doesnt say "You must take Spanish", but its the schools that decide which languages to offer.
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