Top 5 most southern towns or cities?(excluding border towns) (Tyler: living in, place)

[soletaire]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Killeen, I think, is a bit of an anomaly, though. The military presence pushes the black population to 30%+, which isn't at all common for places west of 35. It's not Waco or Cameron, but it's still different from Marble Falls and Kerrville.

Yeah, thats why I put it with Austin, and San Antonio. Those are both centers that attract large groups of people from all over; much like Ft. Hood does in Killeen. I dont consider Waco to attract the same kind of multiculturalism that Austin attracts because 1) Baylor is a smaller school than UT, and 2) Waco is a smaller town than Austin, so many collegians and foreigners would rather live in a larger, bustling, progressive city, than a smaller provincial town like Waco.

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Killeen, I think, is a bit of an anomaly, though. The military presence pushes the black population to 30%+, which isn't at all common for places west of 35. It's not Waco or Cameron, but it's still different from Marble Falls and Kerrville.

This.

Killeen doesn't fit in with Austin and it doesn't fit in with Waco. It stands on it's own because it's very transitional and doesn't really have a distinct culture or feel.

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by blkgiraffe

This.

Killeen doesn't fit in with Austin and it doesn't fit in with Waco. It stands on it's own because it's very transitional and doesn't really have a distinct culture or feel.

Exactly when I went to Killeen I met so many people who didn't have anybkind of TX accent but realize the city was full of transplants.

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

Exactly when I went to Killeen I met so many people who didn't have anybkind of TX accent but realize the city was full of transplants.

Yeah, and not in the sense like Austin, Houston or Dallas where people are actually settling down and making it a permanent stay. People are coming and going in Killeen constantly.

[soletaire]

I would consider Killeen to be in the same category as Austin in most regards. Killeen just feels like a non-descript military hub of transients and Austin just feels like a Texas city with many eclectic transients in its mix.

[SoulMane979]

Originally Posted by blkgiraffe

This.

Killeen doesn't fit in with Austin and it doesn't fit in with Waco. It stands on it's own because it's very transitional and doesn't really have a distinct culture or feel.

I'd say imho it does fit in with Austin,just instead of military from elsewhere there are hippies and intellects instead,because of all the people I know from living in austin none of them where originally from there.No distinct Texas culture or accent either.There's a real artsy,sun dress wearing,incense burning,whole foods shopping feel to the city.I love visiting and appreciate it more when visiting.Absence makes the heart grow fonder.I don't like living in the middle of it,but visiting is cool especially in the spring when all the big events are going on.

[Nairobi]

The most southern thing about Killeen is the military Georgians there and the older blacks who migrated there from further east in the state. Outside of that, it might as well be an Austin suburb.

[Ag77845]

Originally Posted by DanielWayne

I grew up in SE Tx (Beaumont-Pt Arthur-Orange) and this is definitely true for that area. My high school class was about 45% white, 45% black, and the rest was everything else, including me. Same thing for SW Louisiana I'm pretty sure.

I will relocate to Beaumont and stay there for a little while...any advice? things to do?

I've heard a lot of bad things about that area.

[llmrkc07]

Originally Posted by soletaire

Most southern non border Texas towns:

1.) Marshall

2.) Beaumont

3.) Hunstville

4.) Lufkin

5.) Bryan

I agree with this list, with the exception of Bryan.

To the OP, why the exclusions of bordering towns? Those cites, like mentioned, are the most southern in the state. IMO west of I-45 is where southern characteristics start to diminish.

Also, the city of Austin may have a small black presence, but the city has a HBCU. To me, a city with the demographic of Austin to have a HBCU shows black presence is there. I also know plenty of blacks that were born and raised and now reside in Austin and Houston that have southern accents. Now, I'm not saying that Austin has a strong black influence, but clearly its there.

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by llmrkc07

I agree with this list, with the exception of Bryan.

To the OP, why the exclusions of bordering towns? Those cites, like mentioned, are the most southern in the state. IMO west of I-45 is where southern characteristics start to diminish.

Also, the city of Austin may have a small black presence, but the city has a HBCU. To me, a city with the demographic of Austin to have a HBCU shows black presence is there. I also know plenty of blacks that were born and raised and now reside in Austin and Houston that have southern accents. Now, I'm not saying that Austin has a strong black influence, but clearly its there.

I thought he meant border as in south of the border???