Beans and Peas - Texas terminology! (Midland, Crockett: transplants, rent, home)

[cygnet]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

So crowder peas/cowpeas are not another name for black-eyed peas, then....

Yep...I hear you on the red beans and rice.......I've made them a few times, with both red and pinto....and various sausages. My favorite LA sausage was andouille....hard to find outside of LA, as far as I know.

Kidney beans in chili????

Yeah -- WHAT are they thinking of? Pinto beans are bad enough. And crowder peas are different from black-eyed peas, in Louisiana anyway. Andouille -- best thing to put in jambalaya. (No beans in that either, TexasReb!)

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

Yep...remember a LOT of concessions at all ball games....small bag of fritoes slit open, and covered with nasty, nasty Wolfe (??) brand canned chili....and raw white onions.

It's fine with HOMEMADE chili, beans or not.....but not nasty canned crap...ewww ewww ewwwwww.

LOL Was it Wolf brand? I aint sure either, Cathy!

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by cygnet

Yeah -- WHAT are they thinking of? Pinto beans are bad enough. And crowder peas are different from black-eyed peas, in Louisiana anyway. Andouille -- best thing to put in jambalaya. (No beans in that either, TexasReb!)

All I know is that black-eyed peas are a Southern tradition from Virginia to Texas on New Years Day and I say God Bless 'Em, whatever they are called!

Another thing on the chili thing though, is that the first "real fight" me and my present lady friend ever had was when she said she was going to make us some "chili" for supper that night.

Ok...fine..

What she turned out WAS VERY GOOD (she is an EXCELLENT cook on ANYTHING)....BUT, it was nothing I recognized as "chili"!!! It had beans and tomato sauce and all sorts of stuff that made it TASTY...but it was NOT chili...dammit!

[JamesAbilene]

To really be a Texan, I agree with most of the posts:

Any red bean you cook better be a pinto.

Green limas--for northerners. Large white limas cooked right become butter beans and a Texas tradition.

Leave those beans out of chili.

Leave that sugar out of corn bread. Yuk.

And eat those black eyed peas every chance you get.

Honestly, pintos, black eyes, and butter beans are great and cheap protein substitutes. My mom used to mash up pinto beans and make us pinto bean sandwiches when there was no money for meat.

[lonestar2007]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

LOL. No, I have never been to that one!

To tell you the truth (which is rare for a Texan) my favorite way to have chili is in what we call "frito pie" (and it aint got no damn beans! ).

As an aside here, I always wondered if that creation was truly an original thing of Texas or not...? Kinda like "hot Dr. Pepper." First time I ever remember having it I was probably too young to remember if my memory serves correctly. BUT...seems like it was back when my daddy and grandpa used to take me to high school football games and, for a dime, you got a small pack of fritoes slit open, and chili and cheese poured into them.

And NO beans, dad gummit!!!

I remember the ladies in the school cafeteria serving these Frito pies for lunch, we each got the Frito bag with chili, cheeese and onions and had red beans on the side. We got Mother to making them, little Frito bag and all and of course she made her chili, so it was one of our all time favorites. Dairy Queen used to have these Frito pies, and I think they did used Wolfe Brand Chili. I don't know if the ladies at school made the chili or not, but believe it or not, it was good.

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by JamesAbilene

To really be a Texan, I agree with most of the posts:

Any red bean you cook better be a pinto.

Green limas--for northerners. Large white limas cooked right become butter beans and a Texas tradition.

Leave those beans out of chili.

Leave that sugar out of corn bread. Yuk.

And eat those black eyed peas every chance you get.

Honestly, pintos, black eyes, and butter beans are great and cheap protein substitutes. My mom used to mash up pinto beans and make us pinto bean sandwiches when there was no money for meat.

Actually...you sound much more like a southerner than a Texan with all of that....LOL!!!

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

LOL Was it Wolf brand? I aint sure either, Cathy!

It might have been something else, but it was canned.....and all canned chili is just nasty!!

I like my own chili better than anybody else's....and it's made with everything, depending on what I have on hand......beef, pork, venison, turkey.....sometimes beans, and sometimes not, LOL!!

Flavor also varies, depending on what variety of chili powder I use.......I always make my own seasonings, and use just ground red powder (not a chili mix)....or even whole pods, fresh reds or dried.

Now I'm getting hungry.....and chili is NOT a breakfast food....

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

Actually...you sound much more like a southerner than a Texan with all of that....LOL!!!

*grinning* Let's us not go there, Cathy, as we both know it supports my whole premise about Texas essentially being Southern.

(just kidding)

[TexasReb]

Originally Posted by Cathy4017

It might have been something else, but it was canned.....and all canned chili is just nasty!!

I like my own chili better than anybody else's....and it's made with everything, depending on what I have on hand......beef, pork, venison, turkey.....sometimes beans, and sometimes not, LOL!!

Flavor also varies, depending on what variety of chili powder I use.......I always make my own seasonings, and use just ground red powder (not a chili mix)....or even whole pods, fresh reds or dried.

Now I'm getting hungry.....and chili is NOT a breakfast food....

Cathy, I was just thinking what with the mentions of canned chili and all, and tying it into the beans and peas thread there, that the same can -- no pun intended -- be said (which is "yuk"! LOL) about black-eyed peas.

Yeah, if NOTHING else is available and I am stuck up north on New Years Day, then I will open up a can of black-eyed peas (and HAVE before! LOL).

BUT...otherwise, get fresh if possible...dried are acceptable. Unless in an emergency situtation (such as happened with me as described above) avoid canned black-eyed peas at most costs!

[Cathy4017]

Originally Posted by TexasReb

*grinning* Let's us not go there, Cathy, as we both know it supports my whole premise about Texas essentially being Southern.

(just kidding)

This native West Texan ain't no southerner ....our cornbread always contained sugar......we never ate butterbeans.....and blackeyed peas weren't that common, even on NYD......

I don't think they eat pinto beans much in the typical south, do they? Where I lived and worked outside of Jackson, MS, they had mostly black-eyed peas/butterbeans....

I was able to get regular dried pinto beans and the rest of the makings for good Tex-Mex, fortunately.

I found one Mexican restaurant (a chain)...and they made their chip-dipping sauce hot with Tabasco.....lordy, lordy, lordy.

I like Tabasco as much as the next person, but it is not supposed to be used to make hot salsa with chips!!