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Old 03-17-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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Great, thanks for pulling those statistics. Anyway you could pull the same for Montreal?
Haitian 107,720
Jamaican 10,365
Congolese 9,840

Haitians dominate the Montreal community in Montreal, with Jamaicans and Congolese both around 10,000.

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I also wonder which US cities would be similar in composition if you focus on the foreign born and 2nd generation black communities.
There are some Black foreign born figures available. As for ethnic groups, I don't know how to get figures that include numbers for only those that identify as Black, such as for Trinidadians and Guyanese. So the data would be more approximate.

I think this would make an interesting thread in its own right, perhaps in the general US section where more American posters are likely to be reading.

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Also do they do the same for the Latin American population? As far as who identifies as black?
Latin American is a visible minority group itself. StatsCan marks only those with a single Latin American response as Latin American (the same is true with Arabs and West Asians). In the case of Latin Americans, many write in "white" so the visible minority Latin American designation undercounts the Latin American population quite significantly, it's probably about 20% higher. This data that breaks down ethnic origin groups by visible minority group is only available for the top 100 reported ethnic origins. Only 3% of Brazilians identify as Black, and among other groups reported (Mexican, Colombian, Salvadorean, Chilean and Peruvian) it's less than 1%.
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Haitian 107,720
Jamaican 10,365
Congolese 9,840

Haitians dominate the Montreal community in Montreal, with Jamaicans and Congolese both around 10,000.

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Interesting. I knew there were Jamaicans in Montreal but didn't know there were that many. I suppose most have been there for quite some time. A number of African countries like Senegal and Rwanda are probably on the verge of passing Jamaica though, and Congo has probably passed it some time ago.

Some Montrealers of Jamaican origin (pretty sure of this):

Yolande James - Assemblée nationale du Québec

Marlene Jennings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Otis Grant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmSnMZfrXdQ

And Quebec's musical and entertainment wunderkind is of Trinadadian origin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-xRTmu0jU
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Exactly. Especially considering half of the Trinidadian population in Toronto does not identify as black. .
Gregory Charles' (the guy in my other post) father is Trinadadian black, but most Trinadadians I have met in Ottawa seemed to look more Indian, and were of the Hindu faith.
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Old 03-17-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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Yeah, Jamaicans are pretty much everywhere, we love to move around

The Jamaican diaspora outnumbers Jamaicans still living on the Island. So you can bump into us quite a few places around the globe. But Jamaican migration has slowed in recent years and we will probably never see the wave we did in the previous decades.
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Ottawa also has a fairly sizable Black population that's quite diverse.

Haitian 11,695
Somali 8,465
Jamaican 5,615
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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I think this would make an interesting thread in its own right, perhaps in the general US section where more American posters are likely to be reading.
OK I took up my own request.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...l#post38853966
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Ottawa also has a fairly sizable Black population that's quite diverse.

Haitian 11,695
Somali 8,465
Jamaican 5,615
I knew it had some Haitians but I am surprised that they are the largest group in Ottawa.

Somalians get much more attention.
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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I knew it had some Haitians but I am surprised that they are the largest group in Ottawa.

Somalians get much more attention.
I was surprised by that as well.

Just for reference here are the Haitian numbers for Toronto:

GTA: 2,150
City of Toronto: 1,070

Haitian | UReachToronto

Also just for you Acajack, here is the rundown for Gatineau specifically

Other African countries (excluding Algeria and Morocco) 4,890
Haitian: 1,480

http://www.cmhc.ca/en/co/buho/seca/ga/ga_001.cfm
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I was surprised by that as well.

Just for reference here are the Haitian numbers for Toronto:

GTA: 2,150
City of Toronto: 1,070

Haitian | UReachToronto
Just thinking... I wonder if the "Ottawa" numbers are for just Ottawa, or Ottawa-Gatineau which is the metro area. That would make a difference.
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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The figures I shared for Ottawa are people who meet the following criteria:

- Specifically identify as Black visible minority

- Live in the Ottawa-Gatineau CMA, both the Ontario and Quebec parts.
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