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I don't hate the Prius, it's just not for me. I'm happy with my 34-36 mpg Civic..... Even if I were to get one, it would take years to break even on the price difference given I already get great gas mileage.
I would only consider one if it got 80+ mpg right off the lot, right now, it's just not that much better than a regular 4 cyl. economy car.... Just my $ 0.02 worth!
I don't hate the Prius, it's just not for me. I'm happy with my 34-36 mpg Civic..... Even if I were to get one, it would take years to break even on the price difference given I already get great gas mileage.
I would only consider one if it got 80+ mpg right off the lot, right now, it's just not that much better than a regular 4 cyl. economy car.... Just my $ 0.02 worth!
There is more one reason to buy a hybrid. Its not just about possible fuel savings.
Its amazing to me everyone busts out a calculator to discuss hybrids and why they are not worth it when the same could be said for ANY car.
For example, it might take 10 years to recoup the costs of a new Civic at 35MPG vs keeping an old car at 25MPG with no payment.
Is a S65 at 180k worth the .2 second or so difference in acceleration over a 140k S63?
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I'm not a Prius hater, but living in the 'Highest-Prius-per-capita' area of USA, I get quite few obscene gestures from 'free-thinking' Prius drivers at my Bumper Sticker... "50 mpg since 1976, Where have you been?,NO OPEC, No Dinosaurs, No toxic Batteries"
Actually, the Energy Balance (all required energy inputs from inception, construction, lifelong operation) of a Prius, vs. one of my StealthRabbits, is not even close to similar. All my Diesels will go well over 500k miles in their life, AND they will not go to a 'Plastics' landfill at end-of-life (whenever that is??). Mine are made from METAL !
I get my tires at junkyards for $5, and often get another 5 - 7 yrs use out of something that was headed for scrap.
Consider your total energy footprint, when you look to that NEW 2012, vs, resurrecting the 'Rabbit' in your neighbor's brier patch.
BTW... we had a whole line of full electric vehicles and charging stations at my place of employment... Circa late 1970's.
No its because they are idiots. They probably think you plug it in your living room. They rather support bailed out companies with taxpayer money and/or drive 30 years old cars and explain how they get 30 MPG.
Then its a Toyota which is the most hated brand on here.
Dumbest post ever made about a response to the dumbest car ever built. When there are plenty of 50+mpg diesel powered cars avalible, the moronic prius is nothing to brag on.
I do not like the Prius' design, but I admire its technology and fuel efficiency. I guess some people are really afraid of change. Its your freedom to drive a gas-guzzling truck or SUV, but don't start whining on fuel prices. SUV=past, PRIUS=future. Like it, or spend all your $$$ on fuel.
There is more one reason to buy a hybrid. Its not just about possible fuel savings.
Its amazing to me everyone busts out a calculator to discuss hybrids and why they are not worth it when the same could be said for ANY car.
For example, it might take 10 years to recoup the costs of a new Civic at 35MPG vs keeping an old car at 25MPG with no payment.
Is a S65 at 180k worth the .2 second or so difference in acceleration over a 140k S63?
Etc etc etc.
I'm sorry everyone doesn't think like you...
News Flash: You don't know everything, your posts are just your opinion, everyone does not share them AND you're not the smartest person out there.. NOT even on this forum! Get a life!
I can't believe there are people stupid enough to believe that Toyota actually cares about the environment... well, thanks to this thread now I can.
Thanks, but i'll stick to driving around my 7500lb diesel behemoth for pennies on the dollar. Prius owners can snivel all they want at me... I get the last laugh.
To the OP: If you have your heart set on a 2012 Prius, I would personally suggest pre-ordering the car. Chances are they will be a hot commodity when they come out and that is the only way to semi-guarantee you can get one.
As for the rest, I have nothing against the Prius itself. I think as others pointed out it is the image and attitude associated with the Prius that turns people off, even the real environmentalists. Toyota did an incredible job building the image of that car and it has paid off wonderfully for them. Let's face it, the Prius IS one of the most fuel efficient vehicles you can buy. It is also relatively inexpensive at it's base price, slotting directly between the pricing of compacts and midsize while returning midsize space and content.
The problem starts when people try to justify it as something besides just an efficient A to B appliance. There is nothing inspiring or particularly redeeming about the Prius other than the fact it gets good mileage. People who simply say I bought a Prius, because I needed something more efficient (regardless of the actual dollars and cents behind it, but face it if someone is buying new and needs Prius level space/content, it is the economical choice) and the Prius with it's strong resale represents a great value, are fine in my book and bought the car for the right reason.
It's the people who see the Prius as being superior and an extension of some sort of environmental movement and derive "smugness" from that who are the issue. Buy the Prius because it's a good match for your needs, don't buy it because it's a "Prius" and by buying one you are somehow magically caring about the environment and are a better person for it.
To the OP: If you have your heart set on a 2012 Prius, I would personally suggest pre-ordering the car. Chances are they will be a hot commodity when they come out and that is the only way to semi-guarantee you can get one.
As for the rest, I have nothing against the Prius itself. I think as others pointed out it is the image and attitude associated with the Prius that turns people off, even the real environmentalists. Toyota did an incredible job building the image of that car and it has paid off wonderfully for them. Let's face it, the Prius IS one of the most fuel efficient vehicles you can buy. It is also relatively inexpensive at it's base price, slotting directly between the pricing of compacts and midsize while returning midsize space and content.
In the US, yes, not as readily the case elsewhere.
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umm besides better fuel economy what other reason would someone buy hybrid for then?
Like it, or spend all your $$$ on fuel.
