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View Poll Results: Will air travel really change or is the media scaring people?
Yes, Air Travel will Change Forever. 50 52.63%
No, Air Travel will Not Change Forever. 45 47.37%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-16-2020, 11:30 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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It is scary to read the media these days and watch the news. I'm an air travel fanatic and I love getting on airplanes. However, I'm reading and hearing from multiple media posts and videos that air travel is going to change forever. Do you all really think this will happen or is the media scaring people? Please answer in the poll. Take a look at this link before answering.

https://samchui.com/2020/05/09/whats.../#.XrxCIGhKiUl
Really? What's wrong with you? Jk.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:37 AM
 
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Makes no difference how sanitized the seat rests are, it's the air.

The longer you spend in an environment breathing in the air that a contagious person is breathing out, the more likely you will be infected.

Even if the airlines install virus scrubbing filters, if that is even reality, air hangs around a long time before recirculating.
True.

TIME plays huge role in virus transmission. If you are on an airplane even for one hour with a a Cvd19+ and that person sneezes or coughs YOU are opening yourself up to trouble. In/Out is different. Being forced to stay in one seat with no outside air trapped with humans all around you BAD IDEA.

What makes you think a restaurant is any different or a movie theater or......you get the idea.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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My hope is that this upends the airlines trend of ever smaller seats and space while packing people in as tightly as they could get away with. Those days are over.
The airlines will go out of business if they try this for any extended period.

People will not pay more than they paid in 1975 to fly and sometimes it's less.

Because costs are not fixed like salaries and jet fuel have increased tenfold since 1975, airlines must fly with pax loads at about 85% in order to break even.

Unless people are willing to pay $1000 to fly regularly from NYC to LAX or Miami, airlines will continue to pack their planes.

In 1985, when I was in college, I paid $335 to fly from Myrtle Beach, SC to San Francisco, CA. The cost of that flight is similar these days.
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:59 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Yes. Air travel will change forever. Just like it changed after 9/11. Even if there weren't a pandemic, air travel has always changed. Some for the better, some for the worst. Like smaller seats and crappier food.
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Old 05-16-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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I vote no; not forever. It may take a few years, two to four in a gradual recovery.


Flight crews and other employees will get trimmed beginning Oct 1, PPE ends for air carriers. Some will be retirements, early retirements, others just out. Fleets are already being trimmed. Delta retiring their entire fleet of eighteen 777, primarily because of higher operating costs. MD88s and 90s have already been retired by carriers. All three too expensive for the new economics of flying.

Secondary, nationally and international routes will be trimmed. Ticket prices will be higher. Bargain fares will be harder to find, maybe even rare.

Hopefully, when this begins to shake out, late this year to early next year, the experience will be improved. Had gotten to be a real cattle car experience.
PPE ends for some carriers? So no more mask wearing after this date on a flight?
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:16 AM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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It will change forever unless a vaccine is developed and Covid19 is eradicated completely.
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Old 05-17-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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PPE ends for some carriers? So no more mask wearing after this date on a flight?
Pretty sure they’re talking about government bailout money.
Airlines will not be subsidized beyond September, at least that’s the current plan.
So, they will have to scale back a bit.
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Old 05-17-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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Pretty sure they’re talking about government bailout money.
Airlines will not be subsidized beyond September, at least that’s the current plan.
So, they will have to scale back a bit.

Immensely scale back.

They are not alone. I doubt hotels ever rebound to pre covid quantity, nor sit down restaurants
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Airports are notoriously germ magnets. The fear around how contagious coronavirus seems to be mixed in with the stereotype of how dirty airports are. Also, the fear of possibly being seated next to someone coughing is what will cause anxiety for everyone until this goes away.
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Old 05-17-2020, 05:49 PM
 
Location: USA
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It will change for a time, just as it did post 9-11.
The biggest challenge, if masks are still required, is for kids to comply with the directive.
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