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Old 01-31-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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On swap I was tested in the second appeal trial. It was found in the first appeal trial but the judge decided not to test it. That was more Knox DNA.

Swap B is the sample with Kercher's DNA on the knife. It was not retested in the recent appeals trial.
Here is a link to the actual report regarding the DNA evidence:
Conclusions (2) | The Conti-Vecchiotti Report

 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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Here is a link to the actual report regarding the DNA evidence:
Conclusions (2) | The Conti-Vecchiotti Report
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The Supreme Court annulled that trial where C-V submitted the report and they h ad some sharp criticism for C-V. C-V said contamiation is possible but did not prove it or lay out a logical scenario for how it happened. The Supreme Court said that is a not legit basis for an not guilty verdict.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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Oh, yeah, right, he has sex, leaves Meredith and goes into the bathroom and just then murderers happen to show up and kill her. What a story!!! Why anyone would believe that wild story is beyond me.

But the judge of course had his plan and that was to find 2 innocent lambs guilty - for his purposes.
nobody belived that story. he was convicted for manually raping her , just not for the stabbing. again, she was restrained by 2 people.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Don't forget our country let George Zimmerman go, too.

There's another one who got away with murder. Literally.
I don't believe Zimmerman assaulted Martin. Martin was a lot bigger. Martin could have outrun Zimmeran to. I think Martin was encouraged by his female friend on the phone to give Zimmerman the "white cracker" a beatdown so he circled back around. Witness said they saw Martin on top of Zimmeman punching him in the face and Zimmerman's face was all bloodied up in pictures. There is at least reasonble doubt in that one.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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So much for the knife.

She was a freaked out kid in a foreign country with no police translator and was held for hours and hours being harassed, yelled at and bopped on the head. Wow--an inconsistent story. How unusual from someone being abused.
Knox studied linguistics at the University of Washington and made the university's dean's list. She was in Italy to attend the University for Foreigners Perugia for a year, studying Italian, German and creative writing. She partied and socialized while there and apparently didn't have a problem communicating.

My neighbor's daughter attended a university in Italy and she was fluent in the language (she had to be) as she had to live among the natives just as Knox did with her flat.

The no police translator is not really an excuse. Bopping one on the head would not be acceptable here but things are different in other countries.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:35 PM
 
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The Supreme Court annulled that trial where C-V submitted the report and they h ad some sharp criticism for C-V. C-V said contamiation is possible but did not prove it or lay out a logical scenario for how it happened. The Supreme Court said that is a not legit basis for an not guilty verdict.
What evidence exists that would be legit for a guilty verdict? The crime scene was not handled properly. The DNA evidence is very questionable. Everything is circumstantial and based on the suspicion.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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She will truly sharpen her Italian skills in an Italian prison.
She did. She is fluent in Italian after serving 4 years in an Italian prison.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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Big assumption. They weren't. They botched a fair amt. of forensic evidence.

Why would she kill her roommate? There's no motive, except a bizarre concocted "satanic sex game" story. It sounds like the prosecutor (who has a history of inventing "satanic" scenarios for crimes) is creating hype simply because the two girls involved were Americans, and the world "knows" American women are sex-crazed, based on all the grade-B movies and pornography that gets marketed abroad. This is a very wide-spread stereotype that results in routine harassment and even endangers women who look American (whether they are or not) throughout the developing world.

The whole thing is very shady. Knox has already done 4 years of jail time. The guy whose DNA was all over the place and on the victim is in jail. There's no legit reason to drag Knox back into it after she was acquitted.

The legal experts in this country said that this trial is fair.

1. She was convicted in the first trial.
2. On March 26, 2013, the cased was overturned by the Italian Supreme Court, and ordered a new trial.
3. In the re-trial, she was found guilty again.

There was no "double jeopardy", because they never said she's not guilty.
 
Old 01-31-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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Big assumption. They weren't. They botched a fair amt. of forensic evidence.

Why would she kill her roommate? There's no motive, except a bizarre concocted "satanic sex game" story. It sounds like the prosecutor (who has a history of inventing "satanic" scenarios for crimes) is creating hype simply because the two girls involved were Americans, and the world "knows" American women are sex-crazed, based on all the grade-B movies and pornography that gets marketed abroad. This is a very wide-spread stereotype that results in routine harassment and even endangers women who look American (whether they are or not) throughout the developing world.

The whole thing is very shady. Knox has already done 4 years of jail time. The guy whose DNA was all over the place and on the victim is in jail. There's no legit reason to drag Knox back into it after she was acquitted.
THe prosecutor never claimed the murder had anything to do with satanic rituals. You are apparently getting your info from Doug Preston or one of his allies. Doug Preston has a beef with that prosecutor because the prosecutor investigated him for planting evidence to support his theory of the Monster of FLorence murders.
Also, the prosecutor did not have a history of motives involving satanic riituals. He was investigating a case that might have been tied to the Monster of Florence case which began back in the 1980s and a police investigator at that time had the satanic ritual theory because body parts were removed from the victims.

The prosecutor's original motive theory was a drug fueled sex game that spiralled into violence but he modified that to a fight between the girls over something.
You don't have to prove motive in a murder case. It was established Knox was at the cottage.

Rudy Guede's DNA was not "all over the place". It was like in 3 different spots in the bedroom. The same DNA forsenic scientist who determined Rudy's DNA was there is the one who found Raffele's DNA on the bra clasp and Knox's DNA mixed with the victim's DNA in 4 different spots in the house.

Knox was not found guilty because of her casual sex lifestyle, that is a theory that she has pushed. This isn't The Scarlet Letter. There is a mountain of evidence against her.

Knox was never acquited because the Supreme Court has to approve it first. They annulled that appeal trial because it was not conducted properly. They had like 16 reasons for annulling which means it egregiously bad trial.

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Old 01-31-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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The legal experts in this country said that this trial is fair.
Do you have a citation or source for that assertion of consensus?
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