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Old 01-02-2017, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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The past 3-5 year trend? Not sure how you can gather that considering 2014 had 432 homicides - 330 less than this year...and 2013 had 441. In fact, in the last 11 years, Chicago has only recorded over 500 homicides 3 times.

Anyway, if you look at my post above, you'll see I laid out a very big continuous geographic area of Chicago with just over 1.4 million people with 93 homicides. Austin alone in the same time period had 86 homicides at a population of 97,643. Just think about that for a minute. An area with just under 100K people had almost as many homicides as another big area of 1.4 million people in the same exact city. If that doesn't highlight the severe disproportion of this stuff, then I don't know what does.
2012 was the previous spike around 500 then dropped. It spike horribly again last year in which it could decline gradually this year. Then 018-20 it probably be down in the 400s again. Depending on the community, police, & politics.

I seen your post and many others of similar theme. But those comparison have a similar contrast as well: Economy and Gangs.

 
Old 01-02-2017, 11:31 PM
 
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The source I found puts Chester at 2 and Camden at 6: link.
That link maybe off because I clicked the Compton info and it registered 13 murders which is for 2015.
 
Old 01-02-2017, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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2012 was the previous spike around 500 then dropped. It spike horribly again last year in which it could decline gradually this year. Then 018-20 it probably be down in the 400s again. Depending on the community, police, & politics.
2015 was definitely a spike, but it wasn't "horribly" - bad, but not horrible.

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I seen your post and many others of similar theme. But those comparison have a similar contrast as well: Economy and Gangs.
Most of the huge spike this year in Chicago can be attributed to the FBI/CPD breaking up a few gangs at the top leadership level. This left a lot of the gangs leaderless and many fractured into smaller gangs that then began to fight themselves. It left a lot of teenaged gang members without leaders fending for themselves. I don't usually like Chicago Tribune too much but they actually did a very good piece on it this summer:

Leaderless Chicago street gangs vex police efforts to quell violence - Chicago Tribune



Funny enough, most of the other crimes in Chicago are down compared to even 5 years ago, which IMO is just as important of a narrative considering there's an immense amount of more assaults, robberies, etc in any city compared to homicides.

Assaults (Simple and Aggravated):
2016: 18,445
2015: 17,041
2014: 16,896
2013: 17,971
2012: 19,898
2011: 20,411

2010: 21,535
2009: 22,860
2008: 25,447
2007: 26,314
2006: 25,945

Robberies:
2016: 11,712
2015: 9639
2014: 9798
2013: 11,819
2012: 13,484
2011: 13,982

2010: 14,273
2009: 15,979
2008: 16,703
2007: 15,450
2006: 15,968

Burglaries:
2016: 13,961
2015: 13,183
2014: 14,569
2013: 17,894
2012: 22,843
2011: 26,619

2010: 26,422
2009: 26,766
2008: 26,219
2007: 24,858
2006: 24,324


Theft:
2016: 60,009
2015: 57,288
2014: 61,530
2013: 71,524
2012: 75,454
2011: 75,143

2010: 76,749
2009: 80,972
2008: 88,430
2007: 85,155
2006: 86,238

Although each of these went up in the last year or two (Burglaries barely went up), they are all lower in 2016 than even versus less than 5 years ago. For some reason, Homicide didn't follow for this year.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Pleasant Ridge)
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As of 12/24 Cincinnati had 62 homicides. Had 71 homicides in 2015, that's a 13% decrease.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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As of 12/24 Cincinnati had 62 homicides. Had 71 homicides in 2015, that's a 13% decrease.
Good.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Originally Posted by marothisu View Post
2015 was definitely a spike, but it wasn't "horribly" - bad, but not horrible.



Most of the huge spike this year in Chicago can be attributed to the FBI/CPD breaking up a few gangs at the top leadership level. This left a lot of the gangs leaderless and many fractured into smaller gangs that then began to fight themselves. It left a lot of teenaged gang members without leaders fending for themselves. I don't usually like Chicago Tribune too much but they actually did a very good piece on it this summer:

Leaderless Chicago street gangs vex police efforts to quell violence - Chicago Tribune



Funny enough, most of the other crimes in Chicago are down compared to even 5 years ago, which IMO is just as important of a narrative considering there's an immense amount of more assaults, robberies, etc in any city compared to homicides.

Assaults (Simple and Aggravated):
2016: 18,445
2015: 17,041
2014: 16,896
2013: 17,971
2012: 19,898
2011: 20,411

2010: 21,535
2009: 22,860
2008: 25,447
2007: 26,314
2006: 25,945

Robberies:
2016: 11,712
2015: 9639
2014: 9798
2013: 11,819
2012: 13,484
2011: 13,982

2010: 14,273
2009: 15,979
2008: 16,703
2007: 15,450
2006: 15,968

Burglaries:
2016: 13,961
2015: 13,183
2014: 14,569
2013: 17,894
2012: 22,843
2011: 26,619

2010: 26,422
2009: 26,766
2008: 26,219
2007: 24,858
2006: 24,324


Theft:
2016: 60,009
2015: 57,288
2014: 61,530
2013: 71,524
2012: 75,454
2011: 75,143

2010: 76,749
2009: 80,972
2008: 88,430
2007: 85,155
2006: 86,238

Although each of these went up in the last year or two (Burglaries barely went up), they are all lower in 2016 than even versus less than 5 years ago. For some reason, Homicide didn't follow for this year.
In regards to horrific, I was referring to last year not 2012. Furthermore, FBI/CPD have continued to target the leadership as we speak now. Therefore it's not the entire gangs breaking down its mainly the Southside mobs. Some of it the fracturing have occured on the Westside & Northside as well too. Let me get more specific: Latino mobs for the majority have structure, White mobs ( what's left) have structure since they the smallest , and Black Mobs is were it gets murky. Certain ones have maintain while others not so well. Black Souls, New Breeds, Vice Lords , and to a similar degree Black Disciples have maintain a structure while Black P Stones come next then Gangster Disciples have suffered the most from fracturing. The Feds, projects destruction, and internal issues have been main issues.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nice to see Philadelphia down slightly. The city finished 2016 with 277, versus 280 in 2015 despite spending most of the year at a higher rate than the previous year.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Camden, NJ 55
Newark, NJ 93
Harrisburg, PA 14
York, PA 5
Jersey City 24
Plainfield, NJ 10
Elizabeth, NJ 7
Trenton, NJ 24
East Orange, NJ 8
Orange, NJ 4
Bridgeton, NJ 4
Salem, NJ 4

Allentown, PA 7
Erie, PA 8
Reading, PA 6
Wilkes-Barre, PA 3
Chester, PA 26
Williamsport, PA 3
Easton, PA 2
Hazleton, PA 2
New Castle, PA 3
Mckeesport 4

Syracuse, NY 29
Rochester, NY 62
Buffalo, NY 45
Syracuse info on map: With 26 homicides, 2016 is the deadliest year in Syracuse's history | syracuse.com (not all are shootings, as some were relationship/domestic/family related by people that don't live in the city and a couple are questionable- the fire incident due to what I've found out about it)
 
Old 01-03-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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Columbus Ohio looks to have ended at 95, a slight decrease from 2015's 99. Based on 2015's population, the rate would be about 11.2/100K.
 
Old 01-03-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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So it appears Tulsa,Louisville, Syracuse, Memphis all broke their records this year. That is crazy.

While San Antonio had its highest amount in 20 years.
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