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Old 06-06-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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Open Cases: Why One-Third Of Murders In America Go Unresolved : NPR

When you consider the amount of money that goes into law enforcement and the Technology we have
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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I guess it depends on the area.


Take a city that is laden with gangs. No one talks, the gun is often tossed... It's hard to get enough proof to convict. In fact, in many other cases it's difficult to get enough proof to convict. Often all that they have is circumstantial evidence. Or maybe no victim's body.


Also, often they find the murderer but they are not convicted- OJ Simpson comes to mind.


Overall, I think the police do a fine job with homicides.
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Old 06-06-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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I don't expect most gang, mob, or murders related to those expressly immersed in underground criminal networks (or constant activity to the point it is their lifestyle) to be solved. If you control for those variable in a study, I expect the solvency rate of murders is quite high. Evidently, I imagine everyone would like to say 100% of murders should be solved. However, we live in the real world. So, I expect a clearance rate of three quarters of all murders to be quite could, which I imagine it already is when you remove the less savory...
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:03 PM
 
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I guess it depends on the area.


Take a city that is laden with gangs. No one talks, the gun is often tossed... It's hard to get enough proof to convict. In fact, in many other cases it's difficult to get enough proof to convict. Often all that they have is circumstantial evidence. Or maybe no victim's body.


Also, often they find the murderer but they are not convicted- OJ Simpson comes to mind.


Overall, I think the police do a fine job with homicides.
I think this is overblown. But let's say that's true, with the amount of money man power and technology that law enforcement has at its disposal should "well no one talks" be a valid excuse for why so many murders go unsolved?

I live in NYC, there are literally cameras everywhere. I can't go over 5 miles above the speed limit without a camera ticket in my mail but none of these cameras catch Any real crimes on tape?
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Take a city that is laden with gangs. No one talks, the gun is often tossed... It's hard to get enough proof to convict. In fact, in many other cases it's difficult to get enough proof to convict. Often all that they have is circumstantial evidence. Or maybe no victim's body.

Like the old time Mafia hits. Why investigate? Why waste resources? These gangs are self-policing. Whoever
will get their due payback. Like that rapper in Vegas that was gunned down on the Strip. Still haven't found the shooter. Oh well..........

Also, often they find the murderer but they are not convicted- OJ Simpson comes to mind.


Overall, I think the police do a fine job with homicides.[/quote]
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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I think this is overblown. But let's say that's true, with the amount of money man power and technology that law enforcement has at its disposal should "well no one talks" be a valid excuse for why so many murders go unsolved?

I live in NYC, there are literally cameras everywhere. I can't go over 5 miles above the speed limit without a camera ticket in my mail but none of these cameras catch Any real crimes on tape?
Those cameras aren't designed to catch criminals. Depending on the mode, they are simply for traffic monitoring or enforcement. More police don't equate to higher clearance levels. It is relatively easy to commit a crime and not get caught. If solving crimes was easy and simply a matter of throwing money at it, there wouldn't be unsolved crimes.
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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In overall terms I think our law enforcement agencies do a good job with homicide clearance rates, sure some agencies are better than others but the reality is that we will never be able to solve 100% of crimes, muchless homicides.

What I AM curious to see is what percentage of unsolved cases are from before DNA and other modern techniques (ie: mid-late 1990s onward) vs the immediate past. I would venture a guess that for most agencies, most of their unsolved cases are 15-20 years+ old.
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I'd be satisfied with 99%. Of course, I'd also like to see every convicted murdered get a death sentence. You take someones life, you don't deserve to live yourself.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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It's gotten a lot better now with surveillance, DNA, etc. IN the 1980s and before it was easy to get away with murder. Most murders from that era are still unsolved!
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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A 100% ACCURATE clearance rate would work fine for me. None of the West Memphis Three stuff, convicting someone who's been pressured to confess because we don't like his taste in music.
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