Politics (Oro Valley: purchasing, income, military)

[Djbabybokchoy]

Originally Posted by sierraAZ

Guess his followers give him a bad name then as most of them are the most intolerant folks one ever encounters.

lol

[Ritchie_az]

"Guess his followers give him a bad name then as most of them are the most intolerant folks one ever encounters."

"you'll see how many racists/far righters live here"

I guess if you're not an athiest and liberal, you are an intolerant, racist, right-wing radical.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by Ritchie_az

I guess if you're not an athiest and liberal, you are an intolerant, racist, right-wing radical.

I no longer care about politics. If it weren't for local issues, I wouldn't even go to the presidential elections and I didn't vote for either head of the two-headed monster.

[dintymoore]

Originally Posted by sierraAZ

I no longer care about politics. If it weren't for local issues, I wouldn't even go to the presidential elections and I didn't vote for either head of the two-headed monster.

I don't blame anyone for feeling that way.

The appearance is that it doesn't matter who you vote for and that it's all actually decided by corruption money... it would be hard to argue with the statement "the system is broken".

But I have faith in people and my gut tells me we will be better off in the long run.

[joskel]

I rather like the systems that have a NON-vote. In this system you can choose to vote but for none of the candidates. If a certain percentage (varies with the country) chooses the NON-vote, elections must be held again and NONE of the candidates from the previous election can run again for the same office.

I also like the Mexican campaign period. You only have to put up with the candidates on TV, radio and in publications, even those nuisance phone calls in the middle of dinner, for two months before the election!! None of the campaigning for seemingly endless months. What do you think? Does it have possibilities for the other countries????

Have a great day.
Joseph

[azhiker]

Originally Posted by joskel

I rather like the systems that have a NON-vote. ... What do you think? Does it have possibilities for the other countries????

I like it in theory. Wonder if it has ever had the effect of causing more than a couple of votes. Seems like it would be a way for you to express your displeasure with the two candidates and have it actually mean something.

Wonder how many actually do use the NON-vote though. Often times when we don't like the two candidates, we vote for one of them anyway, because we dislike him less than the other guy. And there'd be the risk that the guy you dislike more's supporters wouldn't play the 'NON' game, so he'd get in over the guy you disliked less. There's some risk involved in that strategy.

Intriguing though.

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by azhiker

I like it in theory. Wonder if it has ever had the effect of causing more than a couple of votes. Seems like it would be a way for you to express your displeasure with the two candidates and have it actually mean something.

Wonder how many actually do use the NON-vote though. Often times when we don't like the two candidates, we vote for one of them anyway, because we dislike him less than the other guy. And there'd be the risk that the guy you dislike more's supporters wouldn't play the 'NON' game, so he'd get in over the guy you disliked less. There's some risk involved in that strategy.

Intriguing though.

I was planning to do the non-vote thing at the last presidential elections, but figured it makes for a better statement to actually pick somebody other than the two. Not that anybody cares about my statement...; it just made ME feel better.

I think if fewer people thought they should vote for the lesser of the two evils, the results might be actually surprising. Provided the results have anything to do with real counting that is...

[Chorizo]

Originally Posted by Ritchie_az

"Guess his followers give him a bad name then as most of them are the most intolerant folks one ever encounters."

"you'll see how many racists/far righters live here"

I guess if you're not an athiest and liberal, you are an intolerant, racist, right-wing radical.

I am agnostic, not liberal, not racist, but am a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy!

Originally Posted by sierraAZ

I was planning to do the non-vote thing at the last presidential elections, but figured it makes for a better statement to actually pick somebody other than the two. Not that anybody cares about my statement...; it just made ME feel better.

I think if fewer people thought they should vote for the lesser of the two evils, the results might be actually surprising. Provided the results have anything to do with real counting that is...

Why vote for the lesser of two evils when you can vote for the one TRUE evil!? Vote Cthulhu '12!!


http://bookstoysgames.files.wordpres...ng?w=420&h=420

[azhiker]

Originally Posted by sierraAZ

I was planning to do the non-vote thing at the last presidential elections, but figured it makes for a better statement to actually pick somebody other than the two. Not that anybody cares about my statement...; it just made ME feel better....

Brava, Sierra. I'm sure you did the right thing. I was sure I'd do that too, but in the end, I held my nose and voted for one of em. I felt like a turd doing it too.

[Djbabybokchoy]

Was anyone else completely cow-eyed about Obama - like... you really believed it? I was so happy to stand in the rain before the sun came up and vote for him. And then he won and I kind of got all teary thinking he'd make everyone rich and happy overnight like some sort of weird post-war fantasy...


http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thed...-dinner-lg.jpg

Now, I just sort of feel like an ass - not because he was the wrong choice, because he was definitely the lesser evil - but because I fell for it in the first place.