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When the show has no connection to Maude at all. The woman who played the maid on Maude was written off the show so she could star in a new kind of comedy which was called Good times. Also when Esther Rolle made her last appearance on Maude, Goo Times had already aired in some cities on Feb 1, 1974.
The producer of the show even mentioned in a 1974 Ebony Magazine that Good times is not really a spinoff which makes sense because
It's based in Chicago...........not New York
The Husband has a different name
And the Evans are living in a Chicago Ghetto which is nowhere near NYC
Plus it was stated in the True Hollywood Story of Good Times that the show was created in 1971 which was one year before Maude existed.
The Evans characters were introduced on Maude though, even though they renamed Henry and recast him. Not sure about when they created the series but I have noticed that a lot of series were used as vehicles to launch new series, which then were considered "spin offs" despite having little in common.
For example, Benson was a spinoff of Soap but didn't have the same soap opera-spoof format.
With the popularity of Archie Bunker they were able to launch Maude, The Jeffersons, Good Times, and Gloria (which wasn't so successful) and later, Archie Bunker's Place.
Here's another interesting example: Empty Nest, which was a spinoff of The Golden Girls, was actually piloted during an episode of GG with Rita Moreno and Paul Dooley playing a couple facing empty nest syndrome after their last daughter leaves home for college. They revamped the whole series after getting lukewarm ratings.
The Evans characters were introduced on Maude though, even though they renamed Henry and recast him. Not sure about when they created the series but I have noticed that a lot of series were used as vehicles to launch new series, which then were considered "spin offs" despite having little in common.
For example, Benson was a spinoff of Soap but didn't have the same soap opera-spoof format.
With the popularity of Archie Bunker they were able to launch Maude, The Jeffersons, Good Times, and Gloria (which wasn't so successful) and later, Archie Bunker's Place.
Here's another interesting example: Empty Nest, which was a spinoff of The Golden Girls, was actually piloted during an episode of GG with Rita Moreno and Paul Dooley playing a couple facing empty nest syndrome after their last daughter leaves home for college. They revamped the whole series after getting lukewarm ratings.
The Evans were poor on Good Times living in the ghetto and on Maude they lived in Harlem with both parents working. So it's clearly two different situations.
If they had kept the show in New York then it would have a better chance of being a spinoff. The show was about the life of Eric Monte growing up in the projects in Chicago during the 60's which is why it's not connected to Maude
The Evans were poor on Good Times living in the ghetto and on Maude they lived in Harlem with both parents working. So it's clearly two different situations.
If they had kept the show in New York then it would have a better chance of being a spinoff. The show was about the life of Eric Monte growing up in the projects in Chicago during the 60's which is why it's not connected to Maude
But the characters were introduced on Maude. I agree it's not connected to Maude, and they never mention it after that, but it is still technically a spin off.
But the characters were introduced on Maude. I agree it's not connected to Maude, and they never mention it after that, but it is still technically a spin off.
Usually when it's a spinoff there is a setup episode on the parent show kind of like
The All in the Family episode titled...."Moving on Up" that set up the Jeffersons
The All in the Family episode titled...."Maude" that set up the show Maude
The Florida character was written off Maude because her husband got a job as a fireman and she didn't have to work anymore. So you see how there was no set up for Good Times? That story about Florida leaving because her husband got a new job was the only way to write her off the show since the new show was about the Family living in the Ghetto.
Someone screwed up and allowed Esther Rolle to keep her same name she had on Maude which is what causes a lot of confusion
On Maude Esther Rolle was Florida, and John Amos was the husband, I believe he had a different name. I have seen episode where they are both on Maude.
But once the have Good Times, Maude is never seen nor hear nor remembered.
so yes, above poster is correct.
I liked GT back in the day, but when I see it today, not so much.
******I always wanted to know why didn't Florida ever fix the 3 window shades in the living room to be adjusted evenly, It always looked so messy looking, that used to drive me nuts....******
On Maude Esther Rolle was Florida, and John Amos was the husband, I believe he had a different name. I have seen episode where they are both on Maude.
But once the have Good Times, Maude is never seen nor hear nor remembered.
so yes, above poster is correct.
I liked GT back in the day, but when I see it today, not so much.
******I always wanted to know why didn't Florida ever fix the 3 window shades in the living room to be adjusted evenly, It always looked so messy looking, that used to drive me nuts....******
And not only that, it was no way for her to be seen since the Evans were living in a Chicago Housing Project. lol
The show was supposed to be called "The Black Family" and her name was supposed to be florida black but i guess they realized that name was kind of stupid.
Imagine what the world would be like if you spent your time and energy helping underprivileged children, or immigrants trying to learn English ... instead of nonsensical blathering about trivialities no one cares about.
Imagine what the world would be like if you spent your time and energy helping underprivileged children, or immigrants trying to learn English ... instead of nonsensical blathering about trivialities no one cares about.
Well you go ahead and help them and let us chat,
Good night
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