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Old 08-22-2023, 08:54 AM
 
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Ie, one of the reasons why I didn't watch Enterprise because I thought Scott Bakula was wrong for the part. His voice is too squeeky.

I was recalling a scene from Airwolf II this morning and it hit me that Jerry Van D*ke was wrong for the part because his voice was too gentle.......if not very confident.

When casting for a TV show, do they consider how the player's voice comes across? Or do they figure they have so many cards in the game, if it doesn't sound right......"they can always shoot around it"?
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:49 AM
 
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You mean Barry Van Dyke.

It all depends on the show(s), actor(s)/actress(es). Some fit the characters perfect, but their voice just doesn't work. So they dub it with another.
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Old 08-22-2023, 11:35 AM
 
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I do find it funny that on YOUNG SHELDON last season, "young" Sheldon already has a deeper voice than "adult" Sheldon.
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Old 08-22-2023, 12:15 PM
 
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You mean Barry Van Dyke.

It all depends on the show(s), actor(s)/actress(es). Some fit the characters perfect, but their voice just doesn't work. So they dub it with another.
Yes, him, that guy.......thank you.
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Old 08-22-2023, 01:33 PM
 
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Strange question. Of course an actor's voice quality would be an important consideration! They don't pantomime dialogue, they speak it out loud! OTOH, choosing an actor to take advantage of their box office draw or physical presence for a role certainly could override a less than perfect voice.
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Old 08-22-2023, 03:54 PM
 
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Casting takes everything into account, and the actor's voice is a big part of it. Honestly, an actor with a less than desirable voice usually doesn't make it far. If they're really good, a voice coach will help, but that's usually early in a career. By the time they're established, their voice is also established.

No one shoots around an actor's voice. We use voiceovers when its called for, but that's not common unless its specific to the role, like someone in a mask or helmet. Sometimes when a role has some singing and the actor can't sing, we'll dub a voice.

Casting directors have a huge influence in movies and TV. Directors for movies, and producers for TV, will bring them in early in the development phase. The better casting directors know just about everybody, and usually find the right people for each role. When you watch a top TV show, and think how well it clicks, that's the casting director and their choices.

Writers and casting directors are the secret sauce in Hollywood.
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:04 PM
 
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Casting takes everything into account, and the actor's voice is a big part of it. Honestly, an actor with a less than desirable voice usually doesn't make it far. If they're really good, a voice coach will help, but that's usually early in a career. By the time they're established, their voice is also established.

No one shoots around an actor's voice. We use voiceovers when its called for, but that's not common unless its specific to the role, like someone in a mask or helmet. Sometimes when a role has some singing and the actor can't sing, we'll dub a voice.

Casting directors have a huge influence in movies and TV. Directors for movies, and producers for TV, will bring them in early in the development phase. The better casting directors know just about everybody, and usually find the right people for each role. When you watch a top TV show, and think how well it clicks, that's the casting director and their choices.

Writers and casting directors are the secret sauce in Hollywood.
True ......but.....some exceptions....

Sylvester Stallone's voice...?....good for boxer roles.....

Arnold Schwarzenegger ......his thick accent could have hurt his acting roles ....but it didn't....

Even Tom Selleck ....a relatively higher pitched "small" voice for such a big man....

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Old 08-22-2023, 09:38 PM
 
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Ie, one of the reasons why I didn't watch Enterprise because I thought Scott Bakula was wrong for the part. His voice is too squeeky.

I was recalling a scene from Airwolf II this morning and it hit me that Jerry Van D*ke was wrong for the part because his voice was too gentle.......if not very confident.

When casting for a TV show, do they consider how the player's voice comes across? Or do they figure they have so many cards in the game, if it doesn't sound right......"they can always shoot around it"?
Nope, producers/directors scrutinize everything that they can think of. Voices are as important as the score.

Some actors get jobs, because of their distinctive voices/speech inflection patterns.

James Earl Jones is one of them.

John Forsythe was another.

Cary Grant was another.

Tons of others...
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Old 08-23-2023, 01:11 AM
 
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Strange question. Of course an actor's voice quality would be an important consideration! They don't pantomime dialogue, they speak it out loud! OTOH, choosing an actor to take advantage of their box office draw or physical presence for a role certainly could override a less than perfect voice.
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True ......but.....some exceptions....

Sylvester Stallone's voice...?....good for boxer roles.....

Arnold Schwarzenegger ......his thick accent could have hurt his acting roles ....but it didn't....

Even Tom Selleck ....a relatively higher pitched "small" voice for such a big man....

Arnold Schwarzenegger was dubbed in his first movie. They weren't sure how audiences would take to his strong accent. They also billed him as Arnold Strong. 53+ years look how far his come.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p3nmyTICo0
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Old 08-23-2023, 04:01 AM
 
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Morgan Freeman comes to mind here..
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