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Old 08-28-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Troubling Winds From Puerto Rico - Barrons.com, Very sad state of affairs on the Island. 25% of the population is on Food stamps.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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25% of the population is on Food stamps.
Last I heard, about 48% of the population in the island is government dependent.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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what do you expect of a status that has no representation, no political power in the federal level and no equal benefits and no equal rights like the 50 states? That's how much the ELA sucks and how Luis Munoz Marin and the PPD sold Puerto Ricans a bunch of lies and keep lying to stay on the status quo. They are the real enemies of progress and equality.

if the ELA status was any good the U.S. would be compose of 13 states with 38 ELA territories. Even Hawaii which is in the middle of nowhere in the Pacific has a far better economy than P.R. with an unemployment under 6% and a household income very stable.


The best case to make for statehood is that all 38 territories that became states, all of their economies improved greatly especially New Mexico and Hawaii after they joined the Union with full benefits and equal rights.


I wouldn't worry too much about food stamps, millions in the states are on food stamps also. Under Obama the food stamps payroll soared. Its common sense if Puerto Rico has an inferior status than the 50 states then more people in the island would be on food stamps.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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what do you expect of a status that has no representation, no political power in the federal level and no equal benefits and no equal rights like the 50 states? That's how much the ELA sucks and how Luis Munoz Marin and the PPD sold Puerto Ricans a bunch of lies and keep lying to stay on the status quo. They are the real enemies of progress and equality.

if the ELA status was any good the U.S. would be compose of 13 states with 38 ELA territories. Even Hawaii which is in the middle of nowhere in the Pacific has a far better economy than P.R. with an unemployment under 6% and a household income very stable.


The best case to make for statehood is that all 38 territories that became states, all of their economies improved greatly especially New Mexico and Hawaii after they joined the Union with full benefits and equal rights.


I wouldn't worry too much about food stamps, millions in the states are on food stamps also. Under Obama the food stamps payroll soared. Its common sense if Puerto Rico has an inferior status than the 50 states then more people in the island would be on food stamps.


Your food stamp rational is demeaning and " da verguenza", like if we have to remain a ward of American taxpayers forever and be proud of it.

But on to something else:

According to new evidence, Munoz Marin was coerced into accepting a bogus status ( ELA) by the Navy , who really called the shots on the island. ELA was designed by them and implemented with the OK of Washington, the UN and the Puerto Rican colonial administrators

Why? As de-colonization gained speed after World War II, Washington wanted to present to the world
that its colonial problem was solved. Being the most powerful nation on earth, it was able to convince, $$$$$$$, certain allies at the UN to take Puerto Rico off the colonial territories list, thus eventually giving the PPD an excuse to tell Puerto Ricans that it's status was solved.

As time went on many Puerto Ricans figured out that the ELA was a sham. Nothing had changed except its name and a smoke screen making us feel like an independent country. In fact, naively, the PPD presented reforms to ELA in Congress in the late 50's with the Fernos Bill, which was shot down by Congress, more or less saying "How date you".

Congress, in cahoots with the Navy, didn't want any changes because it prized our strategic location and parts of the island were used as a military fortress during the height of the Cold War. It was then that GOP flirted with statehood and put it on the Party platform.

As Cuba fell to the Communists, hysteria broke out in Washington and Puerto Rico. We were indoctrinated into believing that anything perceived against Washington was heresy, thus the reason certain people here attack different opinions as leftist or what not, LOL

After the Cold War ended and the Navy left under protests by the PNP. It just shows you how much they cared about their statehood buddies. We were left with a collapsing economy with welfare keeping us alive.

To put the frosting on the cake The PNP lobbied to do away with industrial tax holidays because it interfered with the statehood ideal. With a stroke of a pen 150,000 jobs were lost never to be re-gained.

When Spanish was threatened 80,000 took to the streets to protest the PNP on percieved plans of replacing English for Spanish. Is it any wonder Puerto Ricans are suspicious of English language teaching?

Today we still have the sham, not a state, nor independent and Congress only saying "if you vote for statehood we'll consider it, but it's YOU who have to move on it.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Your food stamp rational is demeaning and " da verguenza", like if we have to remain a ward of American taxpayers forever and be proud of it.
make up your mind, on one hand you admire Europe social big government welfare system of free stuff and on the other hand you find U.S. food stamps demeaning.........make up your mind.....LOL



LMAO! what is your source or sources that Munoz was coerced into accepting a bogus status ( ELA) by the Navy? the Navy calling the shots in congress and forcing 2 Presidents to go along with it? I never heard that..........for my understanding and studying the PPD and Munoz, he was a politician first and love power and when he got to power as the President of the Senate and then governor he had a reality check that there was no political future and no money under independence.........there is a huge difference when you are a young independentista with fantasy thoughts and when you actually get to power and have to get things done and have to get money to pass a big liberal agenda of free stuff and that Munoz can solve everything. That's why many ignorant Puerto Ricans never question him (that wasn't allow) and thought he walked on water....LOL

Now you are a Munoz PPD apologetic? everything he did had a political purpose...POWER with taxpayers money.
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