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Old 06-03-2020, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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A non-binding statehood referendum in PR will be held in November.

https://time.com/5837906/puerto-rico...-us-statehood/

Also, the US Supreme Court has unanimously upheld the financial oversight board that Congress created.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/supr...-is-legal.html
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:54 AM
 
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The referendum in November should be interesting considering the demographic changes in the last few years. A large number of Puerto Ricans moved out of Puerto Rico after the effects of Hurricane Maria. It appears that most were in the younger side of things, which presumably is where the greatest support for statehood is found.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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McConnell just gave a reminder that as long as he controls the Senate, statehood will never happen....

https://www.newsweek.com/mcconnell-w...ocrats-1528873
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Old 09-05-2020, 04:23 PM
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McConnell just gave a reminder that as long as he controls the Senate, statehood will never happen....

https://www.newsweek.com/mcconnell-w...ocrats-1528873
That was more about DC than Puerto Rico.
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Old 09-05-2020, 06:16 PM
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Statehood for Puerto Rico or DC can happen.


The Republicans will just insist on admitting a reliable conservative state to balance the TWO liberal Senators for either of those two areas.


Eastern Washington fits the bill. Write Goveror Inslee and tell him you support statehood for eastern Washington. That will give two reliable Republican Senators to balance Puerto Rico or DC statehood.


IF you want statehood for Puerto Rico...this will work.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:19 PM
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Statehood for Puerto Rico or DC can happen.


The Republicans will just insist on admitting a reliable conservative state to balance the TWO liberal Senators for either of those two areas.


Eastern Washington fits the bill. Write Goveror Inslee and tell him you support statehood for eastern Washington. That will give two reliable Republican Senators to balance Puerto Rico or DC statehood.


IF you want statehood for Puerto Rico...this will work.
DC will never happen as long as the Republicans have a say in it. Most Democrats don't really want it either, but might vote for it for political reasons. If they got a majority, would they throw out the filibuster on adding a state?
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Old 09-07-2020, 02:05 AM
 
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That was more about DC than Puerto Rico.
No, he was pretty clear.

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McConnell said a Biden administration could bring statehood to Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico. He made clear that a Republican-led Senate would oppose any attempt to bring those two potential states into the union.
Plus, Trump is opposed to it, which was already obvious given his contempt for PR. If PR is to become a state, then they need to cross their fingers and hope that Democrats take the Senate and the White House.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think it's ridiculous to deny statehood based on political affiliation. Hawaii is lucky they gained statehood when they did. They wouldn't have a chance today.
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:42 AM
 
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No, he was pretty clear.



Plus, Trump is opposed to it, which was already obvious given his contempt for PR. If PR is to become a state, then they need to cross their fingers and hope that Democrats take the Senate and the White House.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think it's ridiculous to deny statehood based on political affiliation. Hawaii is lucky they gained statehood when they did. They wouldn't have a chance today.
Obama had 8 years and a Democrat Super Majority in Congress for 2 years. He never push for Statehood. Bill Clinton had 8 years and he never push for statehood. Not Carter in the 70's. Not JFK or LBJ in the 60's or FDR or Truman in the 30's and 40's. To say the Democrat party will push for statehood is being disingenuous and knows nothing about Puerto Rico or the people in the island and their politics.

Most Puerto Ricans in the island don't feel Americans. They don't fly the American flag above their own or other flags. They only fly 1 flag, their own. They want to keep their own Olympics and Miss Universe to keep their own identity apart from the U.S.. The Public schools in Puerto Rico which the locals control for decades don't teach American Civics to educate the people for acceptance of the American system and the majority of the electorate reject statehood (keyword is electorate not these phonies 1 sided referendums that the majority in the island ignore) and you want to push for statehood from the mainland and blame Trump? Have you live in Puerto Rico? There is a difference between the people in Puerto Rico to the newer generations in the states that don't vote in the island and have no clue about the people in the island. All Pro ELA (current status) and Independence people in the island are Democrats. I have never met a Popular or Independentista being a Republican. There is a reason and a long history of this. The Democratic Party since JFK have been a big supporter for the ELA and their politics in the island. That's why Carmen Yulin who is against statehood is a democrat that comes to the states and campaigns for the party. All Populares are Democrats for the long history between the 2 sides. That's not going to end now.

Biden needs Florida and he needs the Puerto Rican votes that favor statehood for the island living in Florida so his campaign and the party throws the word statehood and mentions Puerto Rico a lot before the election for the votes but after the election they won't do anything. Biden has been a Senator since 1973 and VP for 8 years and he has never written a statehood bill for Puerto Rico. How many times he has gone to the island on official business to push for statehood? any statehood speech in the Senate floor from Biden since 1973? NONE. Trump doesn't have contempt for the people of P.R. He has contempt for the politicians in the island who have mismanaged the island for decades and want to push a half baked statehood fantasy and more mindless referendums to get federal funds for those referendums and turn their failures and corruptions away from the light and blame it on the current status. Statehood is not going to change how the politicians in the island operate. It will get worse because they will have more federal money to mismanage and steal. If you have a husband or boyfriend that mismanages your credit cards and bank account your answer to the problem is not giving him more money and more access to credit cards. To think statehood is the solution to the people in the island and their politics doesn't know the island and the people inside and are just shooting from the hip from the states.

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Old 09-12-2020, 08:08 AM
 
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DC will never happen as long as the Republicans have a say in it. Most Democrats don't really want it either, but might vote for it for political reasons. If they got a majority, would they throw out the filibuster on adding a state?

DC is a Federal District. The constitution demands a Federal District for the whole Federal government to be on the land to operate without any conflicts of power of land with the powers and rights of a state or states. Also, giving DC statehood would give them enormous power and leverage over the other 50 states by having the whole federal government operating in their state. If that's not a conflict of interest and bias over the other 50 states then I don't know what it. Also, D.C. was land from Virginia and Maryland given to the federal government to form the Federal District as the constitution demands. The constitution says you can't make a new state from lands from other states.This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. It has to do about the constitution and powers of land. Democrat politicians that keep pushing for DC statehood and ignoring the constitution are doing it for politics and their donors.
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Old 09-12-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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DC is a Federal District. The constitution demands a Federal District for the whole Federal government to be on the land to operate without any conflicts of power of land with the powers and rights of a state or states. Also, giving DC statehood would give them enormous power and leverage over the other 50 states by having the whole federal government operating in their state. If that's not a conflict of interest and bias over the other 50 states then I don't know what it. Also, D.C. was land from Virginia and Maryland given to the federal government to form the Federal District as the constitution demands. The constitution says you can't make a new state from lands from other states.This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. It has to do about the constitution and powers of land. Democrat politicians that keep pushing for DC statehood and ignoring the constitution are doing it for politics and their donors.
What do you mean? The Constitution explicitly authorizes states being split to create other states, though in addition to Congress signing off on it, the states themselves have to bless it. The Texas Statehood Act allows for Texas to break up into 4 separate states. But the Texas legislature would also have to agree to such a move should Congress try to go this route.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your point
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