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Old 01-27-2011, 02:23 AM
 
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Oh, it's totally a poor excuse (even moreso than refusing to hiring someone with "no experience"...gee, how do you think someone gets experience if nobody will hire them? ) but as we all know, they use any excuse they can get.

I have no idea if it's legal or not and by this point I don't really care (and how are they going to enforce this, anyway? With quotas saying you have to hire N# of currently unemployed people?), but I wish companies that do this would just come right out & say it so we don't waste hours tailoring resumes and cover letters that are automically going to be trashed.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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No surprise, this has been going on since the crash and there's no end in sight.
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Default Exactly...

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Like I said it depends on the skills required. In highly technical jobs new software and hardware is developed all the time. Even office workers not
working 2-3 years means lack of skill at new versions of common products like Office. Maybe they last used 2003 and now everyone is using 2010.
Employers are adding more advances skills to entry level positions. It really is
a lose lose situation for those who have been out of work for a few years.
It's really quite sad.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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I had skills way beyond what was necessary for my last job and became very disinterested because it was not at all challenging. Previous job, same employer, utilized everything I knew, which was much appreciated by people I worked for but not by HR who had no clue about anything. I don't think my skills have at all deteriorated in the past 15 months. I really question this thinking. Specifically what skills do they think people have lost in the past two years? Borderline people possibly yes, but not the really good ones.
I totally agree. I think that this 'skills deteriorating' is just a lame excuse. Just because someone is out of work for a while, doesn't mean that they suddenly lose their skills. People that make money off of 'retraining' programs, LOVE to pitch this argument.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Nova, D.C.,
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This is the American way! Perfection, the Team Player, Run, Run, never sick, no one in your family gets sick, dies, is in trouble, your family is perfect (or so you pretend), you never lose your job, if where did this legendary recession come from? you find a new job in exactly one month, if you are unemployed for more than one to three months, god forbid, one year, your are automatically, without a doubt labeled a slob, lazy, stupid, incompetent, unmotivated, unemployable, unskilled, and no one will hire you, thus you remain unemployed longer and longer. These wonderful American companies claim that the longer you are unemployed the more unemployable you become and the rustier your skills become. Their logic is suspect. These superior HR beings assume that you, the unemployed person(s) are not actively updating and learning new skills or taking classes, or free classes at a job center, searching for positions, networking, doing researching in a library, and utilizing other avenues to better yourself and maintain your employability, none of this is considered in your quest for employment. The prospective employer's attitude is already negative. The Motto is you are The "LAZY, the LOSER, the UNMOTIVATED, the UNAMERICAN, the UNEMPLOYED!" Why should we hire you? It is a vicious cycle. This seems very un American to me.
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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Long-term unemployed face stigmas in job search - USATODAY.com

- Many companies are shying away from hiring people who are unemployed.
- PMG Indiana, Sony Ericsson and retailers nationwide have explicitly barred employing unemployed people.
Besides the few postings I see which state, "only submit
if you are currently employed", I got this email response
from a recruiter representing an O&G firm:

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Thank you for your response. My client is looking for
someone that has held a recent Business Analyst position.

I will keep you in mind for future opportunities.

Best Regards,
First time I've been *explicitly* told this.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: The Bay and Maryland
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It is true. Many employers believe unemployed folks are lazy and unemployable. What you should do is try your hardest to get any job, even if it is a low-paying service job, and continue looking for a skilled living wage job while you are working. However, looking for a job is a full-time job in itself. You also have to take the time to practice your skills so you will still be able to show potential employers what you can do. Atrophied skills are not marketable in the ultra-competitive American job market where there is simply not enough jobs for every one.

I also believe unemployment has a huge effect on how an individual presents him or herself. People who are unemployed are likely to be depressed or not as confident as when they are employed. In addition, people who are unemployed may not be able to buy new dressed up clothes for job interviews and fresh haircuts and such. Anyone who is getting paid on a regular basis exudes a certain level of confidence and competence. This level of confidence filters down into every aspect of a person's life. I remember being unemployed and not getting a single female's phone number for months and months. Once I started working at a full-time job and getting paid every week, I had dozens of women's numbers almost immediately and many of these females were interested in spending time with me. It was all because of the confidence that a steady paycheck gave me.

Whether interviewers and employers are willing to admit it or not, they judge potential employees on a very superficial level. Interviewers for skilled professions often try to stare down their potential employees. Bad body language and lack of confidence expressed non-verbally due to unemployment blues/stress often leads to not getting said job.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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i think some of you also need to learn how to fudge the resume a bit.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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"I will keep you in mind for future opportunities"
LOL...One of the great brush off lines being used today
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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i think some of you also need to learn how to fudge the resume a bit.

I've fudged mine so much, every time I sniff the paper I get a sugar rush
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