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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-25-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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I think you're making this up.
The idea that millions of foreign workers in Britain are being routinely abused by Leavers over Brexit is nonsense.
A recent EU survey found Britain to be the second most tolerant country in the union towards foreigners.
But it has become part of the campaign of lies and deceit by the Remain side to try to pretend otherwise.
Mick, ya-boy-ya, that's the sort of disingenuous claim that gives Brexiteers a bad name, and undermines their credibility.

MnM said they had witnessed one event, you've tried to extrapolate that to a claim of multiple repeated events involving millions. If I thought it would do any good I'd say shame on you.
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:51 PM
 
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Mick, ya-boy-ya, that's the sort of disingenuous claim that gives Brexiteers a bad name, and undermines their credibility.

MnM said they had witnessed one event, you've tried to extrapolate that to a claim of multiple repeated events involving millions. If I thought it would do any good I'd say shame on you.
Actually I called out the story for being fake.
The idea that Leavers are racist xenophobes is another lie being spread by sore losers.
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Old 08-25-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Actually I called out the story for being fake.
The idea that Leavers are racist xenophobes is another lie being spread by sore losers.
Beyond your own belief, based on what evidence do you say MnM's story is fake?

Remember, if it's reasonable for you to make claims of falsity about an event of which you don't know when, or where, without any evidence in support, then it's equally reasonable for me to claim everything to say is fake.

Ever heard of a two way street, double edged sword?
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Old 08-25-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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Those here that slag off the Prime Minister with silly names are usually of the conceited big head leaning. In actual fact he is doing well at present re the EU machine. In a news item it was mentioned the lack of any sorting by the EU they DON'T get the money expected from us and I think that is good news and we can pend it on something more internallyl pragmatic. His alternative that Marxist leaner does not do well in polls and thank goodness for that.
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Old 08-25-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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Actually I called out the story for being fake.
The idea that Leavers are racist xenophobes is another lie being spread by sore losers.
Don't recall anyone saying all Leavers are xenophobes. But most all xenophobes are Leavers. Nothing fake about that and further more the focus on immigration as a major component of the Leave campaign has legitimised anti immigrant sentiment to an extent not so evident before Brexit within elements seeking to further own narrow agendas.
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Old 08-25-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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Those here that slag off the Prime Minister with silly names are usually of the conceited big head leaning. In actual fact he is doing well at present re the EU machine. In a news item it was mentioned the lack of any sorting by the EU they DON'T get the money expected from us and I think that is good news and we can pend it on something more internallyl pragmatic. His alternative that Marxist leaner does not do well in polls and thank goodness for that.
No he's showing his usual arrogance and nothing of note has come out of either G7 or EU meeting to date. To write otherwise is purely wishful thinking and not remotely pragmatic.
You can name call the leader of the Opposition calling him a Marxist, (horror of horrors, try socialist)but the reality being it is the Right tearing the country apart.
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Old 08-25-2019, 09:24 PM
 
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No he's showing his usual arrogance and nothing of note has come out of either G7 or EU meeting to date. To write otherwise is purely wishful thinking and not remotely pragmatic.
You can name call the leader of the Opposition calling him a Marxist, (horror of horrors, try socialist)but the reality being it is the Right tearing the country apart.
Corbyn has peaked, and is on the slide. His moment has passed. I judge a man by his friends. His close ones are Marxists.

Without him, Labour would be soaring in the polls. It can't be long before the night of the long knives.

Boris is doing ok, better than I thought he would. Tusk and Juncker can't walk all over him, like they did the hapless Theresa May.

We're in the dog days of our EU membership. Better get used to it.
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Old 08-25-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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No he's showing his usual arrogance and nothing of note has come out of either G7 or EU meeting to date. To write otherwise is purely wishful thinking and not remotely pragmatic.
You can name call the leader of the Opposition calling him a Marxist, (horror of horrors, try socialist)but the reality being it is the Right tearing the country apart.
Tearing the country apart ? There you go again with the fake news.
Boris is currently romping ahead of the field in the latest opinion poll because he's committed to delivering what the country voted for.
The only people tearing themselves apart are the motley crew of Remainers who can't agree among themselves.
And it's a joy to watch.
Post-Brexit their pain will be comedy gold.
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Old 08-25-2019, 10:38 PM
 
Location: England
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Tearing the country apart ? There you go again with the fake news.
Boris is currently romping ahead of the field in the latest opinion poll because he's committed to delivering what the country voted for.
The only people tearing themselves apart are the motley crew of Remainers who can't agree among themselves.
And it's a joy to watch.
Post-Brexit their pain will be comedy gold.
It is great to watch. Even Gordon Brown has crawled out of the woodwork telling them they're hopeless. I'm loving it......
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:47 AM
 
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No he's showing his usual arrogance and nothing of note has come out of either G7 or EU meeting to date. To write otherwise is purely wishful thinking and not remotely pragmatic.
You can name call the leader of the Opposition calling him a Marxist, (horror of horrors, try socialist)but the reality being it is the Right tearing the country apart.
If you look at it from Borris point of view it makes sense. He's weak as anything at the moment and needs to make it to a GE in the best possible shape.

If he actually negotiates he might get some small concessions out of the EU but the HoC will bounce it and he'll appear weak start to lose support.

By being unreasonable he either gets a major concession out of the EU (unlikey) or he gets something he can pass.

Best case the HoC block a No deal and he can call a GE immediately.
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