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Old 04-07-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PamelaIamela View Post
London desperately needs knife control. It's gotten so out of hand that the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, backed the use of "targeted" stop-and-search in the capital, after six people were killed in shootings and stabbings in the past seven days.
These were almost exclusively stabbings, but it sounds better if you add the shootings.

Israel also has seen a marked rise in stabbings.
When will the madness end? KNIFE CONTROL NOW!

I think people in Boca Raton are planning a small demonstration outside a British pub this week.
The obvious difference of course is that, unlike guns, knives serve a purpose beyond killing and maiming. And, as has been pointed out several times earlier in the thread, it would be very difficult for a single person to carrying out a mass killing armed only with a knife.

Yes, London has seen an increase in the number of stabbings in the last few months - mostly by gangs in deprived areas. But as you point out yourself, at least our mayor is taking action by increasing numbers of police and allowing the use of stop-and-search. When sh*t happens here, as in 1996, things usually get done to prevent it happening again.

 
Old 04-07-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I know this thread is about firearms, but, if one goes by news reports, the opioid crisis in the US seems to be taking lives by the truckload. Even eclipsing gun deaths in many locations. The UK seems to have been spared this epidemic so far.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 11:52 AM
 
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I know this thread is about firearms, but, if one goes by news reports, the opioid crisis in the US seems to be taking lives by the truckload. Even eclipsing gun deaths in many locations. The UK seems to have been spared this epidemic so far.
In some locations? Opioids are killing 60,000 people every year in the United States. Guns kill 30,000 and 20,000 of those are suicides. Drug overdoses have surpassed automobile deaths and are the #1 cause of accidental death in the United States.

The UK is also having a problem.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The obvious difference of course is that, unlike guns, knives serve a purpose beyond killing and maiming. And, as has been pointed out several times earlier in the thread, it would be very difficult for a single person to carrying out a mass killing armed only with a knife.
Guns serve a purpose in target shooting, competition, hunting, as well as a deterrent in self defense situations. Mass killings have occurred with bombs, motor vehicles, and other means besides firearms.

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Yes, London has seen an increase in the number of stabbings in the last few months - mostly by gangs in deprived areas. But as you point out yourself, at least our mayor is taking action by increasing numbers of police and allowing the use of stop-and-search. When sh*t happens here, as in 1996, things usually get done to prevent it happening again.
The violence will continue to grow using knives, bombs, vehicles, and yes illegally obtained, and used GUNS. It will increase because of your purposely changing demographics. As we say in the U.S. Wake up, and smell the coffee, although I did have English Black Tea this morning.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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Guns serve a purpose in target shooting, competition, hunting, as well as a deterrent in self defense situations. Mass killings have occurred with bombs, motor vehicles, and other means besides firearms.
Oh don't be so naive. The prime purpose of a gun is to kill or maim - that's why it was invented, not to shoot tin cans off a fence or knock fake pigeons out of the sky! Bombs are illegal and do not have a huge association lobbying for their use. The prime purpose of a motor vehicle it to get you from A to B.

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The violence will continue to grow using knives, bombs, vehicles, and yes illegally obtained, and used GUNS. It will increase because of your purposely changing demographics. As we say in the U.S. Wake up, and smell the coffee, although I did have English Black Tea this morning.
You don't think things would be worse if they were legal?!

And changing demographics? Please tell me you're not referring to those terrible muslamics?
 
Old 04-07-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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This has NOTHING to do with the question, you have NEVER been allowed to carry a gun around with you in the UK, whats your next counter argument? Something to do with the cost of baked beans? the statistics show that the probability of being shot to death in the US is FAR FAR FAR higher than anywhere else in the first world, instead of talking about cancer or knives or cars or the moon DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! CHANGE YOUR GUN LAWS AND SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES - SIMPLES.
Like Venezuela did?
 
Old 04-07-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: DFW
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If it wasn't for the British, we wouldn't have the 2nd amendment. (or the 1st)

Thanks guys. We appreciate it.

Great thing about our 1st we can say a who lot of stuff that get's their azz thrown in jail. Isn't that grand.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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there was plenty of reason to bomb the crap of stone age wife beaters. THey were harboring osama. saudi arabia and pakistan should be erased off the map as well.

THe only good jihadi is a dead jihadi.

I blame everything that has happened on your boy.
My boy?

Haaar; if blaming destabilization of the mid-east to the extent unfriendly regimes took over, you've got to read some history going back further than the cabbage leaf you crawled out from under yesterday.

Perhaps go back to just the early fifties where the CIA fomented a coup to remove the democratically elected leader of Iran at the behest of British Petroleum and Shell Oil and consider the installation of a corrupt and cruel leader who then created a secret police force trained by the CIA to murder his opposition.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...rnment-of-iran

You can blame all you want but the last guy is just the latest in American leaders who fugged with a foreign country's destiny to the point of creating a power vacuum filled with hatred for the U.S.

Shouldn't you have received new marching orders from your masters by now? Trump's now pizzing on the Russian oligarchs, shouldn't he now be your designated target?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/polit...chs/index.html

"Erasing off the map" is something America has already failed at any number of times, unless of course you're recommending the use of nukes. If you suggesting that's a viable option, you're obviously not to be taken seriously on anything of a political nature discussed in here.

You should practice the fine art of applied nonsense as you're really, really bad at that.
 
Old 04-07-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Like Venezuela did?
No like ALL comparable first world countries (and it ain't even close!), unless of course you actually do believe that the US is a third world country?
 
Old 04-07-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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No like ALL comparable first world countries (and it ain't even close!), unless of course you actually do believe that the US is a third world country?
Exactly!
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