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A folder doesn't need a parking spot. It can be folded up in 30 seconds and tucked away in your closet or under your desk. I wonder why they aren't more popular there? Also eliminates the risk of getting stolen, which might be more of an issue here than in Amsterdam. Good for apartment dwellers because you don't want to park your bike outside in the city. It probably won't be there for long.
It's not nearly the same scale as Amsterdam, but Philadelphia also has a real shortage of bike parking. Anywhere you go around center city, you're liable to see bikes attached to street signs, parking meters, fences, rails, trees and anything else. What few bike racks there are often have two or three bikes attached to them. Philly has taken to converting single street parking spots into bike corrals that can accomodate multiple bikes, but 30th street station remains a nightmare for bike parking.
Huh? I've read a ton of advocacy of bikes and never once saw someone argue bikes were invisible or could somehow be magically hidden.
Double Huh? Follow the postings. You posted a great video on a Japanese bike rack system that hid the bikes underground. The speaker in the video says one of the good things about the system is that it frees up space above ground. I posted that in Amsterdam it may be an issue to build underground because of the water tables. You mentioned that they could build it above ground, and I responded that part of the attraction of the Japanese system was that it was mostly underground i.e. , hidden.
No one said bikes were invisible, but YOUR video shows that yes they can be hidden.
Double Huh? Follow the postings. You posted a great video on a Japanese bike rack system that hid the bikes underground. The speaker in the video says one of the good things about the system is that it frees up space above ground. I posted that in Amsterdam it may be an issue to build underground because of the water tables. You mentioned that they could build it above ground, and I responded that part of the attraction of the Japanese system was that it was mostly underground i.e. , hidden.
No one said bikes were invisible, but YOUR video shows that yes they can be hidden.
Again, huh?
Hidden isn't the issue at all. Space is. Who gives a damn about the aesthetics of seeing a bike parked in public. No one ever thought it was important to hide cars either.
Texas is huge, they definitely have the space to add all the parking they need. Personally, I'd rather see a few parks instead of all those parking lots which are an eyesore.
As far as Amsterdam's bike parking problem, when there is a problem, there is an opportunity. Perhaps opening various bike locales that stack bikes on various rows in areas that see more bike congestion. I think it would work if there were two systems, one for those who need to "park" them longer than an hour and one for those that are on the fly.
Hidden isn't the issue at all. Space is. Who gives a damn about the aesthetics of seeing a bike parked in public. No one ever thought it was important to hide cars either.
Space, not the view, is the issue.
If I had the choice of a bike park being hidden underground with open space above, or an above ground bike park, I would hope aesthetics plays a huge part in both. You're somehow giving me the impression that by hidden you mean that a hidden bike is somehow a shamed bike. Remember it's you who posted the " hidden " bike park as something interesting.
Ever been to Lyon, France? They have some of the most beautiful car parks I've ever seen, as do other cities.
Should it start charging? Encourging a shift to mass transit?
“When you look at the large squares, on a Friday night the place is completely covered with bikes,” he went on. “There is also a question of aesthetic values.”
“I have three,” said Timo Klein, 23, an economics student, picking one of his out from a scattering of dozens of bikes on the central Dam Square, some still usable, others clearly wrecks. “If one breaks down, I don’t have to use public transportation,” like buses or trams, which in the city’s narrow, clogged roadways are slower than bikes.
Huh? Because we have more space bicycles and bicycle less?
More car friendly, Amsterdam is beautiful but it seems like such a hassle to own a car there.
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