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Old 09-24-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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So what? Why should people who need the car have the right to easily park wherever they want? Where does that right come from? What is wrong with even having ONE neighborhood where parking is difficult? Just don't go there if you don't like it!
Because the only reason why the parking is difficult is to maintain the illusion of urbanity and not for any practical reason at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible and so less parking does not mean cheaper rents.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:05 PM
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Because the only reason why the parking is difficult is to maintain the illusion of urbanity and not for any practical reason at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible and so less parking does not mean cheaper rents.
In many cases, there isn't space to put more parking. I also mentioned that off street parking can eat away limited green space.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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Because the only reason why the parking is difficult is to maintain the illusion of urbanity and not for any practical reason at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible and so less parking does not mean cheaper rents.
That doesn't make sense at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible, but if there is insufficient market demand for 1 parking space per unit, why should there be a government law mandating that? Why don't we let the market decide?
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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In many cases, there isn't space to put more parking. I also mentioned that off street parking can eat away limited green space.
Usually off the street parking is located on the property and if that green space is on private property whoever owns it can do pretty much whatever they want with it.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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That doesn't make sense at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible, but if there is insufficient market demand for 1 parking space per unit, why should there be a government law mandating that? Why don't we let the market decide?
It is rare outside of maybe skyscrapers that there are not enough cars to fill the spot.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:10 PM
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Usually off the street parking is located on the property and if that green space is on private property whoever owns it can do pretty much whatever they want with it.
Yes, if the developer didn't put off street parking there it wouldn't be paved over.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:11 PM
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It is rare outside of maybe skyscrapers that there are not enough cars to fill the spot.
I could find examples, but don't have time to search right now.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Yes, if the developer didn't put off street parking there it wouldn't be paved over.
Not really. They would just have an slightly larger back yard around here but if it is an rental what you could or even would want to do with it would be very restricted.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:15 PM
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Not really. They would just have an slightly larger back yard around here but if it is an rental what you could or even would want to do with it would be very restricted.
You don't do much with it. Not sure why a back yard is unsuable in a rental, unless one unit has access. But the main benefit would be you wouldn't completely surrounded asphalt.
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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Because the only reason why the parking is difficult is to maintain the illusion of urbanity and not for any practical reason at all. The developer is going to charge as much as possible and so less parking does not mean cheaper rents.
I have no idea what the "illusion of urbanity" is. I've been to Lincoln Park. It is urban. That's just a fact. You don't have to like it, but there's no denying it is a urban neighborhood

Your response doesn't answer my question. I didn't say that removing parking minimums would lead to cheaper rents. I think in some cases it would because you'd be opening up more supply to other uses. But it's not guaranteed.
But that's not the reason for removing parking minimums. The reason is because there's no justification for them because there is no right for anyone to have a parking spot. If the market doesn't supply it in your area, move elsewhere.
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