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View Poll Results: The following are America's true urban cities:
Atlanta 34 12.73%
Dallas 30 11.24%
Houston 39 14.61%
Miami 43 16.10%
New Orleans 56 20.97%
Charleston, SC 16 5.99%
Savannah, GA 15 5.62%
Boston 158 59.18%
New York City 209 78.28%
Philadelphia 154 57.68%
Baltimore 101 37.83%
Washington, D.C. 131 49.06%
Buffalo 32 11.99%
Pittsburgh 79 29.59%
Cleveland 57 21.35%
Detroit 74 27.72%
Chicago 170 63.67%
Minneapolis 46 17.23%
Milwaukee 45 16.85%
St. Louis 68 25.47%
Kansas City 20 7.49%
Seattle 73 27.34%
Portland, OR 47 17.60%
San Francisco 141 52.81%
Los Angeles 74 27.72%
San Diego 21 7.87%
Salt Lake City 9 3.37%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 267. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-29-2008, 09:23 PM
 
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Well, yeah, that would be a good one. Hopefully, it will revive.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:47 PM
 
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I would say Miami. It has a large downtown that will most likely fill up well after the economy gets out of the gutter. South Beach is pretty urban.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Not that anyone really cares, but here is my take on America's most urban cities (in order):

(1) New York City
(2) San Francisco
(3) Chicago
(4) Philadelphia
(5) Boston
(6) Washington DC
(7) Baltimore
(8) Pittsburgh
(9) Cincinnati
(10) St. Louis
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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Not that anyone really cares, but here is my take on America's most urban cities (in order):

(1) New York City
(2) San Francisco
(3) Chicago
(4) Philadelphia
(5) Boston
(6) Washington DC
(7) Baltimore
(8) Pittsburgh
(9) Cincinnati
(10) St. Louis
I can dig that list. 4-8 are a toss-up. Nice list.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I can dig that list. 4-8 are a toss-up. Nice list.
Thank you...I know, I've been rearranging them for the past 10 minutes, but figure it's close enough anyway.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Miami
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Miami, San Francisco, Chicago and New York City.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:24 PM
 
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I agree with most of that list, but I think DC should move up. Or maybe just have Philly, Boston, and DC tie.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I agree with most of that list, but I think DC should move up. Or maybe just have Philly, Boston, and DC tie.
You know, I've honestly been contemplating those three--which one is more urban? The reason I gave it to Philly is because some of their row house neighborhoods (like South Philly) are so dense; Boston has Back Bay; but DC's CBD is almost completely connected....so that was my tie breaker, but truly it could go any way. If I had to change it, I might say DC, Philly, Boston, but I think I'll leave it as is.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:02 AM
 
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I know density doesn't determine urbanity, but Wiki says Boston's density is 12,000+. Philly=10,000+. DC=9,500+. I don't see how DC's is that low, unless that's the metro because in the metro there are some very low density suburbs out west. However, the actual DC square has Rosslyn, Alexandria, Arlington, and all of southern and western DC which is extremely dense and filled with row houses and brownstones.

IDK, maybe it's just because I like DC more. But, also, when you think about it, Boston doesn't seem as urban as DC or Philly. I guess it is though. Just doesn't seem like it.

Ok, I guess I take that back. Here's some pics from the Boston link from C-D.com

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I know density doesn't determine urbanity, but Wiki says Boston's density is 12,000+. Philly=10,000+. DC=9,500+. I don't see how DC's is that low, unless that's the metro because in the metro there are some very low density suburbs out west. However, the actual DC square has Rosslyn, Alexandria, Arlington, and all of southern and western DC which is extremely dense and filled with row houses and brownstones.

IDK, maybe it's just because I like DC more. But, also, when you think about it, Boston doesn't seem as urban as DC or Philly. I guess it is though. Just doesn't seem like it.

Ok, I guess I take that back. Here's some pics from the Boston link from C-D.com
When I say density, I certainly mean structural density and not population density. I think population density is arbitrary and deceptive. For instance, most Eastern and Midwestern cities are going to have substantial lose in their urban cores; cities like Pittsburgh get hit twice as hard as it has hills that can't be built upon. In Pittsburgh's stats you'll never see that neighborhoods like Crawford-Roberts had a density of 67,000 ppl/ sq. mi. Not to mention where the borders of cities and neighborhoods run is arbitrary as well. So I think the point is: you will never see an accurate stat for defining urbanity...that's part of what makes it interesting to discuss!
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