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I read that the "B line" will start limited operation this year as far as Westminster with electric motive power. But I read that extensions past there will be diesel powered. Which "begs the question," what kind of equipment will be used at that point? Dual mode locomotives, like the legendary FL9?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_FL9 attaching diesel locomotives to electric MUs? Anyone know?
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Cost mostly. It’s cheaper not to put a roof on the stations.
Then there is the “Denver weather is so great that we don’t need underground stations” crowd. Yeah, if you don’t mind waiting 15 minutes for a train in January in five degree below zero weather with a 30 mph wind blowing snow in your face.
You're talking of perhaps two-three days a year. Your opinions on Denver weather are well known to those of us on the Denver forum.
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You're talking of perhaps two-three days a year. Your opinions on Denver weather are well known to those of us on the Denver forum.
Thank you for making my point.
Denver the only place in the world where transit riders have to freeze their asses off for two hours on the platform with absolutely no shelter, while the train operators sit on their nice warm trains, and no matter how much people beg the operators won’t open the doors to let the people come on and warm up. The type of thing that makes me happy I no longer live in Denver.
Calgary has all outdoor stations. It is much colder than Denver, and gets very ridership at a per capita basis; though train frequency is high so wait times are normally short
Calgary has all outdoor stations. It is much colder than Denver, and gets very ridership at a per capita basis; though train frequency is high so wait times are normally short
I have no idea where you get that information from. Calgary has excellent light rail stations. Nothing like Denver.
Denver the only place in the world where transit riders have to freeze their asses off for two hours on the platform with absolutely no shelter, while the train operators sit on their nice warm trains, and no matter how much people beg the operators won’t open the doors to let the people come on and warm up. The type of thing that makes me happy I no longer live in Denver.
At least Chicago has heating lamps at their stations
Something like basic wind/rain/sun shelters plus wintertime heated leaning posts would do wonders.
Seattle and Portland don't see temps anywhere near as cold as Denver, rarely getting below 20 F. Denver needs shelters as least, particularly since the trains don't come very often.
At least Chicago has heating lamps at their stations
Chicago also has canopies over the boarding platforms, to keep the snow and ice off the platforms. Denver doesn’t, despite the fact that Denver is near the mountains and gets a lot more snow then Chicago. They have to rely on manual labor to remove the snow from the platforms, and in major storms, it might take the crews a while to get to each station. Labor savings alone should pay for the cost of canopies over the platforms. Denver also gets bad hail storms in the summer. How would you like to get caught waiting for a train on an open air platform, with an extremely limited canopy, when a hail storm hits.
I have no idea where you get that information from. Calgary has excellent light rail stations. Nothing like Denver.
I haven't been to either city. But looking up some of Calgary stations, some are covered on top. One of the ones I found that was covered on top was open on the sides; so hail is blocked but not wind. Other stations, perhaps less well used ones, are completely open:
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Yeah, if you don’t mind waiting 15 minutes for a train in January in five degree below zero weather with a 30 mph wind blowing snow in your face.
