How to combat NIMBYs (schools, major, projects, development)
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If you want solid young families, not sure how an affordable housing project would work to help that.
Most young families want single family homes as well.
I know my neighborhood would protest and vote against any affordable housing project in our neighborhood. If the land is ever developed, we want more single family homes that would raise our values.
Crazy view, but everyone wants to protect their investment and be able to sell some day at a decent price.
Our town looked at supporting some kind of 'affordable housing' development. The problem was that once any tax incentives or waivers from zoning requirements (setbacks, minimum lot size, etc) were granted they help the initial developer but future sales of the property migrate quickly towards traditional market values and the 'affordable' is gone. Unless the town wanted to retain some ownership stake in the development there was no way we could extend the 'affordable' beyond the first owner. And our town is not large enough to administer a long term management program.
Well, when real estate sky rockets, who is going to work in the retail shops, restaurants and the middle class jobs, when no one can afford to live there except the people who bought a house 30 years ago? The NIMBYs want no development, affordable housing, or any housing subsidies to help others, but will still expect first class services. The minions can live 30 miles away to come into their town to make minimum wage, not their problem.
I live in New Hampshire, a state blessed with excellent geography and real economic potential- some parts are less than 30 mins from Boston. We also have a horrible inventory problem, and nobody wants to build houses that aren’t McMansions on 3 acre lots- hence our average home price of $325000 It’s like Florida style sprawl happening. Usually the town “old timers” rule and resident associations using insane tactics try to stop any and all development...that brings in any young families. I like to say NH is trying to become an 55+ community. This doesn’t work because we have an old population and a horrible brain drain. This could be because we have 0 income tax 0 sales tax and crazy high property taxes which causes everyone to fear children and school spending. I understand that southern nh is wickedly conservative in some areas even near MA, and that could be why this is all happening. Anybody who suggests this is told “to go back to commie Massachusetts”
NH is dying and we need young people and companies. We have a few but we’d have more if their employees and families could live here!
They can buy an older home in another town. There are always plenty on the market all around New England. There are also new condos and apartment buildings being built and renovated in cities like Manchester and Nashua. I have an interest in old New England factories and some of them have been converted into lofts in NH as well as Massachusetts.
Why start imposing on particular towns that have an established character, when there are already housing alternatives.
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Governing system laws the only solution? Forceful assertive redirecting. Fast sudden rather than overly slow going in circles. Not always urgent matters. Further convincing the ones that are Not In My Backyard representatives to at least change their minds on some issues.
What is the exact origin or etymology of the labeling to NIMBY's Ideological Standpoints. Are there books about this?
It happened for a project in South Boston when NIMBYs from outside the city showed up and demanded this project stop because it will bring in crime, traffic (Even though this 400 unit complex had 0 parking spots LOL), and undesirables. They begged, screamed and shouted.. and then an even greater amount of YIMBYs showed up and basically told them to screw.
The project is approved and starts construction this spring.
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The purpose of local government is to make decisions affecting local citizens. When the elected officials approve development that is contrary to the wishes of the public, they end up being defeated in the next election. We just had a good example of this in our city, with 3 pro-development incumbents replaced on the council. Perhaps some of this was NIMBYism, but reality is that they are adding big mixed-use commercial and residential developments without the infrastructure to support it, with the already nasty traffic on our thoroughfares.
The purpose of local government is to make decisions affecting local citizens. When the elected officials approve development that is contrary to the wishes of the public, they end up being defeated in the next election. We just had a good example of this in our city, with 3 pro-development incumbents replaced on the council. Perhaps some of this was NIMBYism, but reality is that they are adding big mixed-use commercial and residential developments without the infrastructure to support it, with the already nasty traffic on our thoroughfares.
But a lot of the time, most people want developments in said area. Its just at open forums, the bored NIMBYs who live nowhere near the project show up and scream like hell. Its a common thing here in Boston. 80% of people supported the Edison Plant development from Southie. However, people from Medford, Quincy and even friggen Hopkinton were showing up saying their lives would be ruined from this project (????). Project was killed off and is now in its 5th year of redraw.
But a lot of the time, most people want developments in said area. Its just at open forums, the bored NIMBYs who live nowhere near the project show up and scream like hell. Its a common thing here in Boston. 80% of people supported the Edison Plant development from Southie. However, people from Medford, Quincy and even friggen Hopkinton were showing up saying their lives would be ruined from this project (????). Project was killed off and is now in its 5th year of redraw.
Actually around here the vocal people do not want ANY development. They have moved here and now they want to stop anyone else from moving here and 'ruining their beautiful valley' But at the same time they complain about not having 'amenities' and services. I can't say it is most people because they don't show up at elections or town meetings. They just complain in the newspaper and on Facebook. My response - 'Get involved and run for office, volunteer for the Planning Commission or Water and Sewer Committee and help come up with solutions' But they don't have time for that. We have an election coming up and I'll bet we will be lucky to get 300 voters out of 4000 registered. My thought is that means that most people are happy with the current Town administration.
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