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Hell All. I've spent a lot of time this evening reading through this thread. A lot of posts have been deleted; many others probably still need to be deleted but the hour is drawing late. Feel free to report any other posts that you view as problematic/TOS violation. This thread has run its course and it is time to close. Many thanks for the varied points of view. Please remember that there is a Politics and Other Controversies forum as well as Other Topics and Health and Wellness in addition to this Food and Drink forum for current and future threads. All the best.