[arctichomesteader]

2 men shot in attempted home invasion | Vt Today

[chef.sunny22]

Guess they didn't realize many Vermonters pack a piece...good for the guy!!

[harry chickpea]

Sad, but I feel pretty confident that it prevented something far worse from happening.

[LisaMc46]

Has anyone else noticed the number of shootings/home invasions this year spurred by out-of-staters trying to sell/buy drugs?

[Logs and Dogs]

Originally Posted by LisaMc46

Has anyone else noticed the number of shootings/home invasions this year spurred by out-of-staters trying to sell/buy drugs?

It's well known in the New England Law Enforcement community that drug dealers, gangs etc. are trying to expand into new markets and are showing up with increasing regularity in places previously not touched by their crap.

This isn't a Vermont specific thing. NH etc. has been dealing with this crap for years.

[quickdraw]

Originally Posted by LisaMc46

Has anyone else noticed the number of shootings/home invasions this year spurred by out-of-staters trying to sell/buy drugs?

Hopefully there will be more, with less survivors

[arctichomesteader]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

Hopefully there will be more, with less survivors

Hehehe, I kind of agree. The less of these dirtbags walking our streets the better. The big problem I see is our legislature won't get off its butt and pass better self-defense laws, and we have some rabidly anti-self-defense prosecutors who have no problem charging even victims of burglary and home invasion who defend themselves.

[angelo129]

I think we should face the fact that the people who buy the drugs are the real problem and the potential to put a stop to the incursions of drug dealers is in their hands. They are the residents of Vermont. Without their customer base, Vermont would be of no interest to dealers. We have to begin asking why drugs are so attractive to so many people, especially young people, and then at least try to address these issues. I realize that's the bigger picture, and we might justifiably feel it's beyond us, but the simple truth is that, if no one was interested in their products, they wouldn't be here.

We've had expensive ad campaigns to try to discourage people from drug use, and they haven't worked very well. I don't have any profound insights to offer, and I've been as baffled as everyone else in knowing how to get a handle on the problem of drug use. But one thing I have figured out is that the problem lies with the perceptions of the user. Again: no market for drugs = no drug dealers.

[Logs and Dogs]

Originally Posted by angelo129

I think we should face the fact that the people who buy the drugs are the real problem and the potential to put a stop to the incursions of drug dealers is in their hands. They are the residents of Vermont. Without their customer base, Vermont would be of no interest to dealers. We have to begin asking why drugs are so attractive to so many people, especially young people, and then at least try to address these issues. I realize that's the bigger picture, and we might justifiably feel it's beyond us, but the simple truth is that, if no one was interested in their products, they wouldn't be here.

We've had expensive ad campaigns to try to discourage people from drug use, and they haven't worked very well. I don't have any profound insights to offer, and I've been as baffled as everyone else in knowing how to get a handle on the problem of drug use. But one thing I have figured out is that the problem lies with the perceptions of the user. Again: no market for drugs = no drug dealers.

Holy Hell did you just suggest we hold people accountable for their actions and decisions? Outstanding !!!!

Perhaps actually go to the root of a problem vs.somewhere else in the vicious cycle........

[jenny1951]

Originally Posted by angelo129

I think we should face the fact that the people who buy the drugs are the real problem and the potential to put a stop to the incursions of drug dealers is in their hands. They are the residents of Vermont. Without their customer base, Vermont would be of no interest to dealers. We have to begin asking why drugs are so attractive to so many people, especially young people, and then at least try to address these issues. I realize that's the bigger picture, and we might justifiably feel it's beyond us, but the simple truth is that, if no one was interested in their products, they wouldn't be here.

We've had expensive ad campaigns to try to discourage people from drug use, and they haven't worked very well. I don't have any profound insights to offer, and I've been as baffled as everyone else in knowing how to get a handle on the problem of drug use. But one thing I have figured out is that the problem lies with the perceptions of the user. Again: no market for drugs = no drug dealers.

Yes, where there is a market, there will be suppliers. But this is an age-old question. no? Do we outlaw it and punish offenders, or do we legalize it and collect revenue? Is alcohol very different in that respect?