11-28-2008, 09:25 AM
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We are planning on a move in few months and we are considering several possible job offers. One of the areas we are considering is MD. The job will be with American University. We can afford a house around 600k. But we want a newer home, safe family-friendly area, at least 3000 sq ft and with excellent high schools and be within commuting distance. Is this even possible? Can anybody suggest areas/neighborhoods which we should look at? Looks like Montogmery county and Howard county are the 2 possibliities. As we are moving from a small town, I am just bewildered by the choices in the DC metro area and any pointers will be helpful.
11-28-2008, 10:40 AM
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You MAY be able to get something around 600K due to the current market but even now it is still going to be tough - since you want at least 3000 sq ft, excellent schools, and a NEWER home (what is newer - 5 years? 10 years?) Absolutely NEW construction? - forget it in that price range. Unless you plan to live in a TH and even some of those run over 600K in Montgomery County. Both counties have a lot of offer but Mont. Co is closer to AU. The closer you get to the Mont. Co/DC line, the more expensive everything is.
11-28-2008, 12:39 PM
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Yes, I do start seeing the pattern. So much so we are wondering whether we will be able to afford this move. We have family in the area and would love to live here but it is hard to compromise on the house and schools. What about Howard county? I have seen newer houses (defined loosely as built in the 2000s) for this price range in North Laurel, Columbia, ellicott city etc. Is it absolutely a nightmare commuting from these areas? BTW, we dont mind townhomes.
11-28-2008, 01:03 PM
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Howard county is a good county; we looked in the areas you mentioned as well. School system is good too. And let me also state that within any school system you have the "good" and the "bad." I work for MoCo schools and I have always taught in the impoverished areas where you have a 50% or higher free and reduced lunch rate. This is right on track with the levels I taught at when I was in PG county schools and the performance of the students is about the same. While ideally all schools are equal, the property tax base of the area around your school is directly related to the involvement of parents in the school and the lobbying for more "goodies" that each school is supposed to get. I'm saying all this b/c people get so caught up in the "good school districts". . .The areas you mentioned I think you may be able to find something. Please also realize that property taxes here are quite expensive - no matter WHAT county (MoCo/Howard/PG/Anne Arundel) surrounding the immediate DC area. So you will be looking at about 500+ a month and up escrowed with your mortgage just for property taxes depending on what your final sales price is. Prices may have come down but anything built around 2003/4 that you may be looking at now is going to have very high taxes b/c assessments were just going through the roof (artifically). And while prices have come down, of course the tax assessments have not reflected this (you CAN petition if your home is overassessed). Also, please be aware that there are numerous properties in that price range that are under short-sale status around here because in this area people went with all the crazy crappy exotic mortgage programs just to get into a house around here, because historically the cost of living and property prices are above the average. . . I don't know what your desire is to tangle with a bank over a short sale offer but there are plenty to be had if you so desire (we avoided them like the plague - why be at the mercy of a frickin' banks decision and most we were tracking with our realtor ended up going to foreclosure, just so you know).I am not familiar with public transport from Howard into DC (i.e., commuter bus, rail, MARC train, vanpool, etc) but regardless if you do it that way or drive yourself you are probably looking at a minimum 1 1/2 hour commute in and out, unless you are leaving before 6 AM in the morning, then it may be better. It may even be 2 hours to AU, I'm trying to remember exactly where Tenleytown and the main campus is. . . someone else can probably better address that question.It may be helpful to know where you are coming from -- if you're coming from an urban area some of these things may not be as shocking as coming from Peoria, per se.
11-29-2008, 07:42 AM
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Yes, I do start seeing the pattern. So much so we are wondering whether we will be able to afford this move. We have family in the area and would love to live here but it is hard to compromise on the house and schools. What about Howard county? I have seen newer houses (defined loosely as built in the 2000s) for this price range in North Laurel, Columbia, ellicott city etc. Is it absolutely a nightmare commuting from these areas? BTW, we dont mind townhomes.
The commute from Howard county is horrible. No question about that. You should be able to find what you want in Montgomery County. Check out the Kentlands, for instance. The commute from there to AU wouldn't be so bad, other than 270, but since you're only going as far as AU, it should be okay.
11-29-2008, 08:57 AM
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Why not rent first? I had a girlfriend who moved here and was outta here in a year. Get a feel for the areas, it's nothing like living and breathing your surroundings and you might find something better you like.
11-29-2008, 09:50 AM
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We are not at the stage of life where we can rent. Or if we rent we have to stay put for years till the kids finish high school as we wouldn't want to change schools midway. So we have to get it right. We would love to move to the DC area but might have to decide against it if we have to compromise on too many things. That is why we have to do the research and homework upfront.
11-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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The commute from Howard county is horrible. No question about that. You should be able to find what you want in Montgomery County. Check out the Kentlands, for instance. The commute from there to AU wouldn't be so bad, other than 270, but since you're only going as far as AU, it should be okay.
Dumb question: How do I search for Kentlands in realtor.com? Thanks!
Also how about the commute from Clarksburg?
11-30-2008, 02:03 PM
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Dumb question: How do I search for Kentlands in realtor.com? Thanks!
On the first question: I don't know, but a Google search will find it's site where you can get whatever info you need for realtor.com.
Clarksburg to AU would be much worse because you will be on 270 even longer. If they ever build the Corridor Cities Transitway then you could use that, but that is way off into the future.
11-30-2008, 06:29 PM
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Have you considered Southern Maryland? The commute to DC is a little tough, however, there are public transportation options. And, if you are considering Clarksburg and traveling down 270, Charles County, AA County or Calvert County might interest you. Additionally, home prices and real estate taxes are more affordable in Southern Maryland, especially in Charles & St. Mary's, and your $600K budget will buy you a very nice home. Concerning schools, you can check out the areas test scores / rankings / # students receiving reduced lunch / etc. and you might be surprised at how Southern Maryland schools rank, overall, compared to more metropolitan areas.
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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